DEAD GATF, Shovelnose, Buttikoferi, Betta, BLIND AROWANA!

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How can you people blame the local water supply for his fish deaths that all appear to be from different causes?

Can you explain further?
To me it seems like the water supply is the only common factor? Unless your saying 4 or 5 different things happened with in a two week period? Remember we are talking about an experienced fish keeper, he has separate nets and equipment for each tank. Something most of us don't do. So over feeding issues or water change issues are not the cause.
 
Can you explain further?
To me it seems like the water supply is the only common factor? Unless your saying 4 or 5 different things happened with in a two week period? Remember we are talking about an experienced fish keeper, he has separate nets and equipment for each tank. Something most of us don't do. So over feeding issues or water change issues are not the cause.

Thank you for the support, much appreciated. I am quite fond of your setups, nice work.

We did have some discolored water out of the tap about a month ago and it freaked me out, so I drained my hotwater heater and flushed the lines and tested the regularly tesed params just for piece of mind and all turned up good. Butthen again I don't have tests for every fish killing factor out there I.E: higher levels of chloramine that prime couldn't handle, arsenic(which has been found in our area in the past), heavy metals again that are too high of a concentration for prime to handle etc.

I am stumped and down over all of this. Already sold one tank, gonna downsize for now till I get time to setup a RO/DI system large enuff to handle 2000+ gallons per week...
 
Where are you from??? is it winter where you are??? in winter most cities increase the chloramine content in their water make sure the pipes dont freeze aswell. If you didn't notice the increase of chloramine in the water that would surely kill your fish. My tap water at the moment has 3ppm ammonia...
 
I had a similar case sometime ago, happen two times, most of the fish mysteriously died, all on the same day too, a sunday. Thought it was the water company doing some UFO tampering of the water lol found out that they do nothing special to the water and that the same amount of chloramines added has been the same for many years. I did experiments after to see if I could figure out what could have went wrong. Most times people just say ammonia may have done it, not possible if it was 0 and also from my hands on research, fish rarely if ever die from ammonia, a fish will die if it's weak to begin with. I have put tanks under controlled tests with seriously off the charts ammonia and never lost one fish, even small ones, no negative side effects either, fish are generally pretty strong, just depends on the fish. For my situation, my conclusion was perhaps it was because I didn't dechlorinate for the entire tank instead just the amount I put in from the tap and maybe the chlorine did them in. Now I do for entire tank and have never lost a fish yet. I would say most of the time it must be something not right with the water or maybe even mixing conditioners or if you put your hands in the tank and they have something on them that messed up the water. Whatever the Xfile reasons, best thing is to just ride it out, don't beat yourself up about it and get back on the seahorse. Fish die, go out and buy a new one. i try not to treat my fish like pets, in nature they are just fish in the water and they die out there too. I would think if you invested that kind of money then you should be quite the advanced fish keeper if not then you were in over your head. I only spend based on my knowledge and experience. I never buy a fish that I haven't done lots of research on and even then I always gets stumped by things I didn't find in the research. Just curious how long have you been in the hobby ?
 
maybe you got a bad supply of food? If there was something wrong with what you were feeding them (as if the food was sick or contaminated) that may have been the issue
 
Where are you from??? is it winter where you are??? in winter most cities increase the chloramine content in their water make sure the pipes dont freeze aswell. If you didn't notice the increase of chloramine in the water that would surely kill your fish. My tap water at the moment has 3ppm ammonia...

this is just flat wrong
 
He just questioning the treatment to water base on location and time. --- Any foul play on your fish? maybe you piss off somebody?

water systems don't increase dosage of chloramine in winter to keep the water from freezing. most of the time dosage is decresed due to lower chlorine demand in winter
 
did everyone of the fish you mentioned eat the market shrimp? The reason i'm asking is because I was just talking to one of my buddies as we were on our way to pick up some fish about this same thing. About a year ago I lost a 12" african pike a huge oscar and a catfish because all of a sudden they became very cloudy and then the next day they were dead and there skin rotted off and the cat had no guts in him much like your gatf. They only thing that tank ate were feeders and market shrimp and then my buddy lost about 10 2' plus catfish with similar symptoms. All the water conditions were fine in all of our tanks so we looked at what we were feeding them and the worst disease i've gotten from feeding live is ick and it's pretty easily cured so then we got talking to other people in the state that have lost fish with the same symptoms and some of these people don't even feed their fish live food and just feed them mostly shrimp and tilapia. It seemed like the common between everyone that we talked to is market shrimp and i'm not saying this is the cause but I don't know if theres info out there if they use some kind of chemicals to preserve shrimp a little longer or what or it might not be the cause at all we were just trying to find a common between all the deaths of the same symptoms. I stopped feeding shrimp after I lost those fish and most of my fish such as my armatus, vatf, sturgeon, nile perch, mono peacock and many others I only feed live feeders now and knock on wood have not had problems since. Like I said i'm not sure this is the cause but i'm just trying to share and see what other people think. Don't give up though i'm sure everyone on here has lost some prized fish and wanted to give up but keep with it and good luck.
 
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