Semantics, work, life, envy, and pride...

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I'm sorry I've had the office space break where when my managers ask me a question I just spill the beans. Probably because I can explain my moves and how they relate to management issues pretty solidly.

"I have been dragging my feet on that project it was a 1 week deal that took 3 weeks because the preliminary drawing were never approved and the whole thing was unbillable anyway.(approval is my managers job I don't interface with clients) We had no time table or objective so I stretched it out, working real slow is better than working fast then spending over time undoing my work."

"We have no process or objective unification, I work on stuff with little to no oversight then it gets thrown out because it wasn't done to an expectation I was not aware of. Its all technically solid and to the standard for engineering but it wasn't what **** wanted so it is back to the drawing board. I really think we need to have weekly meetings to outline time tables and objectives for our projects. Right now we work in the dark and have been for 3 months."

"I'm salaried to work smart not hard, I have financial investments outside this company so overtime doesn't just mean unpayed time at work it also means I loose on external investments(I rent/upkeep/renovate my house, breed/sell fish, and became an amway distributor) If I can't do something I have to pay someone else to and that makes overtime and exponential loss for me."

-This is all paraphrased of course taken from long conversations.

I don't shy away from when I'm not working or when things are fumbled I point out I'm doing what I am to work a 40 hr week there is no reason to work overtime, I haven't missed any set deadlines or timetables. I really wish I was working on an hourly wage at a fixed 40 hrs a week. My bonus for a couple hundred hours overtime last summer was one months pay, hmmm so they payed me for 160 hrs and forgot about the other 100 hrs. What happened to time and a half. I'm just so disheartened.

I talk to my other friends in Industrial design and they all get screwed. Guess I went to school for a 5 year degree in indentured servitude. I don't mind working hard, but that isn't why I went to school. The degree, and the salary pay scale is to work smart, that is what I want to do I just don't like being ripped off and miss managed so much.

Ok sorry for going so emo. I don't mean to bring down you guys I'm sure there are more people out there who have it way worse than I do, actually I know many who do. Please chime in or tell your story if you get goofed by your job.
 
you should always give 2 weeks when leaving a job. always,.........

i'm a supervisor so i get to do interviews from time to time. if i have 2 qualified candidates you have to start knit picking just to help you choose. if i know one guy walked away from his/her previous job with no heads up that will cost that person the job
 
anarekist said:
basically work sucks, welcome to the world we live in.
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Not my first job, Just the first one to make me look at my future. I realized if working like they wanted me to work and like my friends work was my future I should just up and kill myself because its no future. Having 9/10 of my life be working hard for someone else with no monetization or real feedback after spending 5 years training and qualifying myself for a field with a continuing level of diminishing returns. I don't make appreciably more that my friends who didn't go to college. I've lost almost all free time for socialization I have lost allot of my network of friends to this job and I don't see a point of breaking out of this mold. I'm smarter with my money to some extent and invest and save accordingly.

Moving to another job is more money but no more time. Its not like me working better or working harder has any real feedback and makes my life any better. Retirement projections for my generation are non existent without dedicating 1/3 of my income to diversified investments. I'm pretty well informed and pursue knowledge all the time. I'm hear on this forum at work because I have NO reason to work right now.

The more I look away from my job for a future the more I feel encouraged, but I'm in that limbo, the calm before the storm of certain change as I need to bring my individual external investments up to a certain level of output to liberate me from my job dependence. I'm not so much talking about never working under someone ever again as not NEEDING too. That freedom of not having to NEED the job but rather pursuing it. I have thoughts and plans but I'm in a financial limbo right now that once I can clear some debts and accrue more liquid personal equity I hope to free myself. I've worked since middle school just always hourly, and always with business owners. Here the owner is completely removed from process and all the people I work with treat it like they can't better or fix anything because there is no need/drive to. I don't blame my co-workers who are they to change anything its the owner and the system instilled here.
 
I would never quit cold turkey, I don't hate my co-workers and really don't feel like wronging anyone. I would do atleast a 2 week notice if not let them know when I'm nearing my liberation that I'm seeking alternatives. I might even negotiate to go hourly then they can phase me out ya know and I can mark up my pay at the same time. Training takes 6 months so I don't want to screw them. I want to be able to have them as a reference on my resume.
 
kamikaziechameleon said:
I would never quit cold turkey, I don't hate my co-workers and really don't feel like wronging anyone. I would do atleast a 2 week notice if not let them know when I'm nearing my liberation that I'm seeking alternatives. I might even negotiate to go hourly then they can phase me out ya know and I can mark up my pay at the same time. Training takes 6 months so I don't want to screw them. I want to be able to have them as a reference on my resume.
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ada boy
 
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