What are the most Intelligent CA and SA Cichlids?

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Ok C'mon,
Have you ever had a couple of the same species of cichlids together?
I did, I had 4 firemouths once and there was a leader, that dominate one would go everywhere in the 75 and all the others followed he would eat something "they" would eat what he ate. Is it that confusing to see that some fish are smarter than others?
 
lol I have silver dollars that do that. monkey see monkey do. One will investigate something and the others will follow. Just seems like a bit of common sense to me. Were your meeki full grown? A juvenile anything will often follow the crowd at least IME.
 
PredatoryFishRocks said:
Ok C'mon,
Have you ever had a couple of the same species of cichlids together?
I did, I had 4 firemouths once and there was a leader, that dominate one would go everywhere in the 75 and all the others followed he would eat something "they" would eat what he ate. Is it that confusing to see that some fish are smarter than others?
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So only some firemouths are intelligent? I don't see how this ties to your OP.
 
PredatoryFishRocks said:
A fish that only eats out of your hands, a fish that will let you pet him for food. a fish that only likes you no one else. A fish that knows whats coming like my oscars hate it when i pull the bucket and syphon out.
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That's not intelligence, it's conditioned response...or in the case of your Meeki, instinct and behavior.
 
Well...this stopped me. I have my fish responding to hand gestures...more like arm and hand movement. I'm not signaling them like a gangsta....but it has nothing to do with intelligence as much as understanding their behavior and being able to capitalize on it by cultivating conditioned response.
 
Aquamojo said:
Well...this stopped me. I have my fish responding to hand gestures...more like arm and hand movement. I'm not signaling them like a gangsta....but it has nothing to do with intelligence as much as understanding their behavior and being able to capitalize on it by cultivating conditioned response.
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Aquamojo, hey take it easy now....you and your fish are communicating with one another. :grinno::grinno:



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Lol. Instincts doesn't mean intelligence. While I think most people underestimate fish intelligence, I don't think that they are geniuses.

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well, i trained a 3 inch oscar to swim through a hoop when i flicked the water (and only when i flicked the water)... I compared it to a sunfish (same size, didn't associate the hoop with food, just swam through it to get the food on the other side) and a venustus (same size, scared of it). the oscar was the only one to actually associate the hoop and flicking the water with a food reward. I worked on training all 3 at the same time in seperate tanks over a course of approx. 2 months, 5 days a week. it was a project for school. the oscar learned the hoop trick in a couple weeks, then went on to learn to do it on command. the hoop was only in each tank for the time I was working on each individual fish. after the trials, i removed the hoop and hid it from their line of sight.

Even when i moved the oscar temporarily to a smaller tank for display (project fair) she still did it only after 1 day of being in there! Oscars are the smartest fish i've tested... I'll eventually do it again using a new oscar and a few south/central american cichlids.
 
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