Small\Young rays and their tanks?

[Tor-Eriik]

If you put a divider in a massive tank the fish still has the full volume which is better than not having it

If you take a cup full of poison and drop it in a small tank volume it could kill the ray out right
If you take that same size cup of poison and drop it in a river it wont affect the fish at all I think the word is dilution

It doesn't take much working out that if you have a bloom of ammonia nitrite or nitrate it will have a bigger impact on a 2ft tank than a 6ft tank

Come on this is basic fishkeeping a larger volume of water is more stable than a smaller one

100% correct on every point, no argue about that! But we do work daily to avoid this, no matter how large the tank is? If there is a 20 gallon tank with 100nitrat, you have to change 10 gallons to make it 50.. If you have a 1200 gallon tank, you have to change 600 to make it 50.. I dont see the difference(exept more water)..

Offcourse the **** hits the fan faster in a smaller tank, but if you did your homework, its not a problem.. Main filtration to avoid ammonia and nitrite i do take as an "offcourse not".

 

[MFNRyan]

I keep my pups in a 100g 60"x18" alone. This takes the fight for food away. I may put two of the younger guys together but I let them get a inch or two on them before moving them to the big set-up. I have 2 huge filters on this tank. A ehiem 2180 with 9L of ehiem bio pro and 2 boxes of fluval biomax. the other filter does some bio and some mechanical. turn over of 525gph. I am yet to have any param issues in this tank. I also treat my wc for parasites in this tank. So far has been nice for me. when I am getting ready to swap their tank.. I start to mix some of the new tanks water in with my water changes.

 

[T1KARMANN]

100% correct on every point, no argue about that! But we do work daily to avoid this, no matter how large the tank is? If there is a 20 gallon tank with 100nitrat, you have to change 10 gallons to make it 50.. If you have a 1200 gallon tank, you have to change 600 to make it 50.. I dont see the difference(exept more water)..

Offcourse the **** hits the fan faster in a smaller tank, but if you did your homework, its not a problem.. Main filtration to avoid ammonia and nitrite i do take as an "offcourse not".

Anything can happen

If you have a fish throw up food in a 20 gal it will kill your fish fast if the same happens in a 150 gal you may have time to get up in the morning or come home from work

A 6x2x2 will looked cramped with any ray in a few months not years

If a 6x2x2 is what you are saying is to large for a starter tank then what would you recommend

If people are def getting a larger tank then why not wait that few months and give the ray that good start in life they deserved rather than ram them in a small tank and have to move them again in a few months putting them in more stress just after you have got them settled and feeding well

A large percentage of large tank up grades are just talk


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[Tor-Eriik]

Anything can happen

If you have a fish throw up food in a 20 gal it will kill your fish fast if the same happens in a 150 gal you may have time to get up in the morning or come home from work

A 6x2x2 will looked cramped with any ray in a few months not years

If a 6x2x2 is what you are saying is to large for a starter tank then what would you recommend

If people are def getting a larger tank then why not wait that few months and give the ray that good start in life they deserved rather than ram them in a small tank and have to move them again in a few months putting them in more stress just after you have got them settled and feeding well

A large percentage of large tank up grades are just talk


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[T1KARMANN]

mmmmmmm i wonder how the small babys find food in the wild does there mother build them a 75gal or do they find food on there own

as long as you dont have loads of other fish in the tank eating the food a 6x2x2 is perfect or a small tank hooked up to the main system this means the pups are in the same water they were bred in and born in

this is were some people go wrong they hook out the new born pups and dump them in a different tank with different water params and the smallest change can kill a new born pup

if you dump food in a 6x2x2 a new born healthy pup will find it

you also have to have better than average filtration as you will be leaving food in the tank for a bit longer than normal

you can also put a divider in the main tank or even make a section in your sump if its big enough

a large water volume is more stable than a smaller amount of water

 

[johno27]

I thought a lot about this, I ended up going with a 40b which is plumbed into a bigger system. I think 36x18 is plenty of room for a pup to be trained to eat and since the tank volume is more like 430 gallons you get the best of both worlds. That being said I wouldn't keep a ray in that size tank for any extended period of time.

 

[Tor-Eriik]

Stingray pup in 125 gallons with autodrip. "find the ray". I dont see how they would need any more space. Just thought i would bring this thread up again, as there is alot of tank size questions. This is only suppose to be for pups, not fully grown rays! Keep that in mind everyone.

 

[vamptrev]

I have good luck with a 50 gallon plumbed to the parents tank. Anything around that size is good to get pups started


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[MonsterMinis]

I started all 3 of my retics in a 40B and went from there... it worked well as they where all wild caught and needed alot of attention paid to them in the beginning as far as feeding ect... but this should be more a "QT" tank then anything.. imo once a ray is eating and healthy of weight and body.. it should be put into as big a tank as possible. I was abit worried when we moved the lil' retics in the 1k pools 10'diam.... they will come raceing across the pool for food when they see me tossing food in. took them only a few days to figure it out. But had I done this when I first got them imo its very possible they wouldn't have known where to come get food, and would have struggled unneccisarily.

imo CB rays are good to go after a 2 week QT as with any new fish ect. Iv'e never had pups so idk how applicable newborns would be to this.. i'm refering more to lfs purchases ect. in general.

 

[dxdx]

I have good luck with a 50 gallon plumbed to the parents tank. Anything around that size is good to get pups started

It seems like this is the best option, you get the dilution from being plumbed to a larger tank, but they can find food easily in the smaller tank.

How do you plumb your pup tank to the bigger system?