How are we supposed to make responsible purchases...

[Oddball]

by allowing a vendor to sell on MFK you are saying they are good

on aquabid for example people get a chance to report con men and the listing get removed

why cant MFK removed a seller that has 2 bad strikes and remove them rather then let them to carry on with there bad ways

We never tout any vendor as being good. They sign on as new members with a business they'd like to promote. If they pay the vendor fees, they're allowed to offer their wares on the site. The site has no capabilities of performing background checks or in-house inspections of the sellers locations. All the site can do is repeatedly remind the membership to do their research before paying out hard earned money. But, realistically, that advice should already be common sense for any transaction in any aspect of everyone's life.

The ONLY way ANY site can ensure that 100% of all transactions go through with 100% satisfaction on both ends of the buy/sell line is to abolish the Marketplace totally and not allow any buy, sell, trade, or free offers at all from any aspect of the site.

We've removed nearly as many sellers from MFK as we currently have active on the site. While a couple have been removed for not maintaining their monetary obligations for retaining vendor status, most discontinued vendors have been shown the door due to poor customer satisfaction.

 

[IRONWOOD]

So let me get this right. the person who got screwed is now banned, but the rip off vendor is still allowed the sell fish????

 

[Oddball]

His suspension had nothing to do with the transaction.

 

[jstavis]

Oddball-- thanks for actually hanging around here and giving straightforward answers. I agree with you that there is absolutely no way that MFK can regulate the sales here-- if you had to do that there would be no classifieds at all.

But I still don't get why it's bad to have a "stadium crowd that feels the need to chime in even if they've never had any dealings with the seller." So what? The crowd isn't going to go nuts over an honest mistake. They're not going to get mad at the good vendors. But when someone knowingly sends a ray that the customer didn't order and then contacts the customer right AFTER it's been shipped, I see nothing wrong with more than one person complaining about the violation. Isn't that the meaning of a community?

 

[JK47]

I'll chime in on this one as well. I hear this a lot of members say they read through a thread that has been closed and say "it wasn't that bad, not enough to be closed" etc.. and to that point, great job to the staff for cleaning (deleting posts) that should have never been made or went too far (threats etc..). I am saying this in general and not specifically about that thread only. Please don't assume what the normal member can read is all that is in the thread. Posts that are deleted are not visible to members, only the staff.

The feedback system is the closest thing we have to offer (for free to it's members) that can assist people in making smart transactions. If you have not left negative feedback for a negative transaction that is not the staff's fault. Please take advantage of this free tool to help yourself and other members alike make smart choices down the road.

 

[Oddball]

Oddball-- thanks for actually hanging around here and giving straightforward answers. I agree with you that there is absolutely no way that MFK can regulate the sales here-- if you had to do that there would be no classifieds at all.

But I still don't get why it's bad to have a "stadium crowd that feels the need to chime in even if they've never had any dealings with the seller." So what? The crowd isn't going to go nuts over an honest mistake. They're not going to get mad at the good vendors. But when someone knowingly sends a ray that the customer didn't order and then contacts the customer right AFTER it's been shipped, I see nothing wrong with more than one person complaining about the violation. Isn't that the meaning of a community?

In referring to 'the stadium crowd', I'm describing the people who post; "I heard he had problems over at ______". We've had situations where the flaming statement was posted only to find out after the damage was done that the poster was referring to another seller or quoting another post they saw without knowing the true events that took place. Then, there are the flame-fanners that post simply to keep the hostilities going without any grounds to back their statements.
These posts cost the staff alot of wasted time in researching their validity and are nearly never seen by readers that come into the discussion in later pages since those posts would have been removed. The simple fact is that it's easier to close such a thread than to allow it to continue on. Because, in essence, the main objective of the thread has been lost to the crowd instead of being an informative thread with concrete facts presented.

 

[aaronb]

The mods clearly favor the vendors cause they pay to be a vendor, pretty obvious really, everything is like that. Although a few years ago my thread about the vendor massive agression did get them kicked off this site. I don't know if they are back but the mods do good things sometimes. Sometimes lol


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It seems like all about money here. You can't delete your own membership here, because to my understanding they want to keep as many members to get more for the paid sponsorships on this site. Lol

 

[Oddball]

This is a totally free site. No dues or donations are asked for to maintain the site. Neo has to pay more out of pocket than he makes from the store, vendor fees, and banner ads. So how can anyone say it's 'all about the money'?

 

[aaronb]

This is a totally free site. No dues or donations are asked for to maintain the site. Neo has to pay more out of pocket than he makes from the store, vendor fees, and banner ads. So how can anyone say it's 'all about the money'?

Well like I said. You can't delete your own membership, because to my understanding they want to keep as many members because they get more money from the sponsors. If that's not true it would make sense to address that statement. Just because someone isn't making enough money to support what ever they're investing in doesn't take away the possibilty of greed.


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[Oddball]

Strange. I always felt this site was about the hobby.