Oscar half eaten but still alive.....some advice?

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Don't be selfish, put the poor thing down.
 
I have a female con..with no tail at all..down to as far down as your is..now i think mine happened at a very young age..and she is almost full grown now..so i dunno its your call your fish.

If he looks like he is suffering to much i would put him down..


But if it was me..and the fish looks like it is TRYING to survive and is fighting to make it..than i would give him a shot but if he is twitching and going up side down than i would put him down.
...I have pics of my girl if you want but i dont want to derail.
 
I have a bit of a personal guideline with beat up cichlids... If it's still able to right itself and swim and eat, I'll give it a shot to heal. That doesn't look like it feels very nice though.


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Look, we as humans are not fish, we can not tell what they truly feel and we probably never can. No one can say for certain that this fish is suffering or if truly wants to live on, nor can we say that any fish we have is happy where it is in the tank or is suffering from stress and wants to be released. Signs can be seen and all that, but what truly goes on in their heads, we will never know.

To look at a fish missing a tail or a fin or is blind in one eye or whatever and say that it is suffering is just us projecting our own emotions into the fish - the fish could be fine and in fact give no two ****s, just being happy to be alive.
 
I have a female con..with no tail at all..down to as far down as your is..now i think mine happened at a very young age..and she is almost full grown now..so i dunno its your call your fish.

If he looks like he is suffering to much i would put him down..


But if it was me..and the fish looks like it is TRYING to survive and is fighting to make it..than i would give him a shot but if he is twitching and going up side down than i would put him down.
...I have pics of my girl if you want but i dont want to derail.

Yours was cut off when it was still young and it wasn't cut nearly as far as the oscar.

Personally if its just lying there and can't swim around you should put it down. With how far back it bit, I doubt it will successfully heal.
 
Look, we as humans are not fish, we can not tell what they truly feel and we probably never can. No one can say for certain that this fish is suffering or if truly wants to live on, nor can we say that any fish we have is happy where it is in the tank or is suffering from stress and wants to be released. Signs can be seen and all that, but what truly goes on in their heads, we will never know.

To look at a fish missing a tail or a fin or is blind in one eye or whatever and say that it is suffering is just us projecting our own emotions into the fish - the fish could be fine and in fact give no two ****s, just being happy to be alive.

physical pain is not a human emotion. it is sensory. if fish don't feel sensory pain they would not stop when they hit the glass or rocks.
that final statement about the fish just "being happy to be alive" contradicts your entire premise..
 
Look, we as humans are not fish, we can not tell what they truly feel and we probably never can. No one can say for certain that this fish is suffering or if truly wants to live on, nor can we say that any fish we have is happy where it is in the tank or is suffering from stress and wants to be released. Signs can be seen and all that, but what truly goes on in their heads, we will never know.

To look at a fish missing a tail or a fin or is blind in one eye or whatever and say that it is suffering is just us projecting our own emotions into the fish - the fish could be fine and in fact give no two ****s, just being happy to be alive.

Fish feel pain just as humans do, and whilea fish is probably incapable of consciously thinking "Man, I wish I were dead right now," when a significant chunk of its body is missing, it is pretty clear that it is in a great deal pain, and to leave it in that situation because of your own inability to let it go is rather sadistic, imo.

P.S. I like how you criticize how people "project emotions into the fish," then proceed to propose the possibility that it is happy. Is happiness not a human emotion (whereas suffering is)?
 
I once read an article (I can't find it now to link) that said fish have ten times the number of endorphins as humans and thus don't feel physical pain. Endorphins don't suppress all feeling, just the electromagnetic signal the body uses to convey pain to the brain. IF that article was correct, your fish wouldn't feel the injuries it has as long as it can function normally.

I have a spotted Raphael catfish that I have had for about 10 years, 5 ish years ago, I redid some decor in the tank he was in and he wad up inside a rock and sat in the kitchen sink, for a day and a half while the rock dried out. When I went to put the rock away, the catfish fell out, dry, yet still breathing. I put him back in the tank and over the course of the next month or so, the entire back half of his body died, fell off, and regrew in its entirety. He is now about 7" long. Its possible for all of it to regrow. Just use your discretion.

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