I am so sorry your losing your fish. I would also second the idea of some daily large water changes. I hope this works for you and you do not lose anymore.
dying and pissed off.
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Sorry to hear bro. Since your in cali, I wood call the county or city about the water supply. I know umbeeking and Ruck Fules had a similar situation last year around this time. Supposedly the city added extra chemicals to the water. When those guys noticed issues with their tank they tested water and nothing so they did water changes like anyone else would. But that in fact made matters worse!!! So be careful bro and good luck. Maybe gani or Chris could shed some more light on this since they were the ones who experienced this...
ER's pump medicinal charcoal into the stomach of poisoned, and oral drug OD patients. usually after a stomach pump. it absorbs ingested toxins.
I'm not sure if it would pull any toxins throughout the body, but perhaps it could help? It may be worth a try.
food grade charcoal is sold in drugstores, but you'd have to crush it into the finest powder.
or, perhaps a veterinary (or even human) hospital pharmacy could sell you some, as there 'might' be a liquified form for ERs. & it's not a controlled substance.
just a thought, perhaps futile.
also, the reason your fish are swimming at top is, the pesticides work by shutting down the breathing musculature. I was accidentally exposed years ago. my abdominal diaphram was spasming so I could hardly breathe. all the Dr could do was rx flexaril muscle relaxers.
You should also seriously consider, the entire route of your air delivery system may have enough toxic residue on it to continue contaminating the tank. poison is designed to be sticky.
I'm not sure if it would pull any toxins throughout the body, but perhaps it could help? It may be worth a try.
food grade charcoal is sold in drugstores, but you'd have to crush it into the finest powder.
or, perhaps a veterinary (or even human) hospital pharmacy could sell you some, as there 'might' be a liquified form for ERs. & it's not a controlled substance.
just a thought, perhaps futile.
also, the reason your fish are swimming at top is, the pesticides work by shutting down the breathing musculature. I was accidentally exposed years ago. my abdominal diaphram was spasming so I could hardly breathe. all the Dr could do was rx flexaril muscle relaxers.
You should also seriously consider, the entire route of your air delivery system may have enough toxic residue on it to continue contaminating the tank. poison is designed to be sticky.
good call on removing the air pump. im doing this now. im also doing another 50 waterchange. ive owned grammodes for years and i can tell when its them running a muck. in this situation im gonna say its not him. hes very small.2-2.5 inches. hes the smallest in the tank. everyone else is 4-7 inches. quick update as well, my female festae has lost her color and her scales on her face are starting to peel. at first glance i was like is that ich? but no its for sure not ich. id hate to do it because of the labor but i might just move all the fish in the tank to the fish room where they can recover and not be further infected until i hunt down the problem. ill tear down the tank completely and start over. i have over 20 ac110s running so cycling the tank again will be fast. thanks everyone for chimming in and the support is amazing. great to know you have my back. losing fish sucks especialy when its something new. anything else that comes to mind feel free to shout out!
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just talked to my friend, hes the water quality tech and he says everythings fine and no chems were added to the water. it has happened before where a city has added extra chlorine to the point where you would need double the prime. i use a capful per 25 gallons already so even if that were the problem im covered. im gonna try n get a hold of gani later today and see what he did. thanks again J
I'm not sure if this test will work on such a tiny fraction, & "iffy" original source, but it'd be an easy try: If you still have the airline tubing which might be contaminated, go catch some ants & send them crawling through it. then leave them in a container with it & see if they start laboring for breath &/or go belly up.
you could also scrape residue off the inside of your tank & try the same thing on ants in another container, just let them crawl over it.
Ditto for anything on tank which you suspect, such as lids.
If there's enough to kill fish, it should mess with ants. unless you've already eliminated/neutralized all traces.
You need to catch ants away from your property.
PS, use fast ants, 'cuz that means they're healthy..
LOL. couldn't resist.
you could also scrape residue off the inside of your tank & try the same thing on ants in another container, just let them crawl over it.
Ditto for anything on tank which you suspect, such as lids.
If there's enough to kill fish, it should mess with ants. unless you've already eliminated/neutralized all traces.
You need to catch ants away from your property.
PS, use fast ants, 'cuz that means they're healthy..
LOL. couldn't resist.
still have the airline ill give it a shot. im going to have leftover carbon. im going to place it inside the tank even though its not in a canister or filter. the more the merrier.
i lost some fish in a 110 in my bedroom because my neighbor sprayed pesticide on his side of the fence about 12 ft from my bedroom window.. the fumes woke me up one morning.. and a few days later my cichlids started doing strange things and swimming in circles and dying. took me a couple days to figure out the cause, but it was too late by the time the fish started swimming funny. the damage had already been done.
i took 15 of my dovii and traded them in at my lfs for a huge canister of carbon. cost like 45 bucks normal. thank god for my breeders! lol i did a 25 percent drain and added about 8 cups of the carbon in a netted bag and put it in one of my ac110s. i guess ill just wait and see. so far ive noticed my water clarity is really good and getting even better. im keeping the water a lil low so it will be turned up even more. one of my female festae is hurt pretty bad. she looks like a peeling fish with black all over her. shes not breathing hard but shes still kinda float/swimming around like shes dazed. i hope i caught it in time. i did a waterchange and vaccum on the 240 i put the other festae in last night. i found them in a cave dead. the have no visual injuries there fins are perfect. sucks i didnt get them into that tank soon enough. im pissed that this happened but i learned a lesson and im glad the other 4 tanks inside the house were not poisoned.
