Feeding after a WC.

[Chicxulub]

Its nt a sump its a wet/dry rated for 300 gallons

240 gallon aquariun. 300 gallon wet/dry filter with 1 Fluval fx5.
stock:
1x male 12 inch Frontosa, 4x13-19 inch florida gars,12inch Longnose gar,6 inch motoro stingray,9 inch delhezi ,7 inch texas cichlid,15 inch tiretrack eel,16inch clown knife, 3x 14-17 inch hybrid peacock bass!

lol... damn midnight shifts... Somehow I read 300 gallon sump. LOL

 

[showcase gars]

Lol its cool if i dont sell my 240 ill turn it into a sump for my 400 or 900 gallon

240 gallon aquariun. 300 gallon wet/dry filter with 1 Fluval fx5.
stock:
1x male 12 inch Frontosa, 4x13-19 inch florida gars,12inch Longnose gar,6 inch motoro stingray,9 inch delhezi ,7 inch texas cichlid,15 inch tiretrack eel,16inch clown knife, 3x 14-17 inch hybrid peacock bass!

 

[CrimsonFog]

I got no theories on this subject. I feed fish lightly everyday. I don't see why it would matter or not.

I usually don't feed the day of (before or after) the WC and really had no real reason why. Just curious to know the affects if I did.

Feeding the fish would cause them to poo which would jump start re-establishing the nitrogen cycle, but would also risk causing an ammonia spike.

Why would you do such a massive water change? It's far better to do a series of small water changes (20% every two days roughly) every other day. It allows the tank to stay properly cycled while removing whatever harmful thing you're trying to correct.

I have always done 75-90% (twice a week) WCs regardless of stock and they are ready to eat and super lively minutes after I have put my pythons away. I tried doing 20%-25% daily and they do seem to get more stressed.

I would only worry if they dont eat after a wc although I try to feed mine before a wc so they leave my fingers alone lol

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All of my stock are juvies, so I'm growing everyone up with power feeds. Never a problem getting them to eat. ;-)

U will b fine i do 80% water changr every Wednesday. U have to understand that most of the bb will be in the substrate driftwood filters etc...there are far more bb in these things then jus free floating bb. If u check out my sig i have a pretty heavy bio load i havent had a mini cycle yet. It basicly comes down to the person who does the wc do they wanna do 20% every 2 days or one large wc weekly.

240 gallon aquariun. 300 gallon wet/dry filter with 1 Fluval fx5.
stock:
1x male 12 inch Frontosa, 4x13-19 inch florida gars,12inch Longnose gar,6 inch motoro stingray,9 inch delhezi ,7 inch texas cichlid,15 inch tiretrack eel,16inch clown knife, 3x 14-17 inch hybrid peacock bass!

What's a mini cycle?

It's all preference, 2x40% per week or 1x80% per week. I notice after my 1x50% wc per week they get a little stressed, there is no way to 100% buffer the new water, I feed 1x/week and do a wc the day after, that way they ate, they poo'd now their water will stay cleaner imo. I'm sorry but I can't see the point in doing a large wc to just feed right after, but to each his own.

I have gone the pothos route to keep my n03 lower and I must say it works very well, consuming about 15-20ppm per week:

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Whats the reasoning behind feeding only once a week? Soley for good water quality? Just curious...

Very nice setup btw... ;-)

 

[F1 VET]

Well my piranhas are adults and older thus their metabolism slows down and they can't process their food as fast, they only take in 50% of the nutrients they consume, 1 time per week ensures they aren't overfeed and developing fatty organs/deposits. But man do they eat a lot when I do feed em, about a jumbo shrimp per fish, and a few pellets. Then the next week I rotate to talapia. And yes it also keeps nitrates down and saves money, there's just no sense in overfeeding bigger fish, its good for them to be hungry especially since mine are opportunistic eaters.


And thanks! You can see their mass:

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[pacu mom]

What are the affects (good and/bad) of food consumption after a large (75-90%) WC?

I'd like to hear the theories.

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There's no right or wrong way. I feed my fish before I do a WC only because I can then go one day with a little less food debris in the water. It really doesn't matter. Some people brush their teeth before they eat. Most people probably brush after they eat. In the end, everybody will eat again, so it doesn't matter when they brush their teeth. Same thing with feeding fish and WCs. In my mind, though, I kind of don't like doing the cleaning work and then immediately dirtying things up by eating/feeding.

 

[CrimsonFog]

Well my piranhas are adults and older thus their metabolism slows down and they can't process their food as fast, they only take in 50% of the nutrients they consume, 1 time per week ensures they aren't overfeed and developing fatty organs/deposits. But man do they eat a lot when I do feed em, about a jumbo shrimp per fish, and a few pellets. Then the next week I rotate to talapia. And yes it also keeps nitrates down and saves money, there's just no sense in overfeeding bigger fish, its good for them to be hungry especially since mine are opportunistic eaters.


And thanks! You can see their mass:

Go S. Vettel #1 rb8

Makes total sense. Does that hold true for older Cichlids?

 

[fishman09]

with the drip system hooked up im feeding during a wc. as long as you do regular changes it doesnt matter when you feed as long as feedings arent crazy or the stock level isnt out of wack. usually after large wc fish are stressed a little bit and may not be so eager to eat.

 

[CrimsonFog]

with the drip system hooked up im feeding during a wc. as long as you do regular changes it doesnt matter when you feed as long as feedings arent crazy or the stock level isnt out of wack. usually after large wc fish are stressed a little bit and may not be so eager to eat.

When are you guna visit Justin and I and setup my drips? LOL

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[F1 VET]

Makes total sense. Does that hold true for older Cichlids?

As far as i know all fish




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[malawi500]

Well my piranhas are adults and older thus their metabolism slows down and they can't process their food as fast, they only take in 50% of the nutrients they consume, 1 time per week ensures they aren't overfeed and developing fatty organs/deposits. But man do they eat a lot when I do feed em, about a jumbo shrimp per fish, and a few pellets. Then the next week I rotate to talapia. And yes it also keeps nitrates down and saves money, there's just no sense in overfeeding bigger fish, its good for them to be hungry especially since mine are opportunistic eaters.


And thanks! You can see their mass:

Go S. Vettel #1 rb8

same for discus?