Cichla Sao Francisco

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I dunno if someone up there is playing a joke on me or what, but I just saw this in the sg marketplace. http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?506614-WC-Peacock-Bass. Black sheeps are everywhere when I tried so hard to clear my country's good name. This I can say is Cichla bedok sp. Still... as I said, these were nv exported as far as I know, just some idiots trying to sell in the local market. Mostly found in smaller LFS.

lol, I'm assuming wild caught from local reservoirs? By superficial interpretation, wild caught, it was wild in the lake and caught, it was not being fed and watched over by humans, directly
 
It is an open forum.
ANyone can participate.
Ya i would who wouldnt want a replacement for a fish that arrived doa?
How about the texts you sent me calling me a, "f'n idiot"? I never lowered my standards to name calling. I never attacked you by name. I just stated possible simmilarities by looking at fish. I am not a drunk by no means. But on occasion I like to have a few drinks like any normal "joe". Our previous buisness was old news. Had nothing to do with this thread. But if you want to fire off attacks I have my ammo as well.

Im done with this thread for good. Wes I hope your buisness continues to thrive and you enjoy your endeavors. I wish you the best of luck.
 
1. he is the one that attacked me on an open forum, without any provocation or grounds

2. regarding the alcoholism, and mood, it has its own story and he knows why. he stated himself that he had too much alcohol to drink, after texting me message asking me for free fish after i had replaced his dead fish that arrived DOA. the following that he was happy and we came to an agreement, for weeks, and then this unprovoked attack. You see where the mood instability comment comes from?

3. This thread, does not involve him, did not sell him any of these fish, nor did I solicit his business. See the first thread is a picture from my customer of fish he obtained from me.

4. While trying to clear my name, after he repeatedly called me a lie, a cheat, an unscrupulous businessman on an open forum, I had to defend myself. I tried resolving via private txt, and asked him to call me, twice, but he refused.
By him tarnishing my name on a public forum, he is liable for civil suits, slander, loss of sales on my side, he can and would be banned from this forum as well.

5. Notice, I remained civil with everyone else on here, even when a person called me a "weasel" but he later apologized. I do not have problem with anybody, generally. I'm very mild mannered.


Bro don't even sweat it. I've been in these for so long and all the OGs know your stuff is all the real deal. You've always brought in tons of rare fish, some fish that most vendors could never get and we all respect you and all you have done for us. If some of these dudes want to not trust their sources then they will never get the oppertunity to own rare fish ;)

Back when I was into cichla, it wasnt all about having azuls kelberi xingu or any of the rare fish like that. Ofcourse it was nice to own some but only person for a while that had azuls was DieselMack, yes thats how far back I am going lol, But we just apprechated the beauty of the bass, not collection point or how rare it was. Ive had plenty of azuls, kelberi, xingu ect but still loved orinos as my favorite bass. People need to start learning how to just apprechate the fish and how wonderful it is.
 
lol, I'm assuming wild caught from local reservoirs? By superficial interpretation, wild caught, it was wild in the lake and caught, it was not being fed and watched over by humans, directly
I think his nick says it all, most likely went fishing and decided to take this one home. Totally dun agree with the wc title even if it was from the born and raised in the wild.
It is an open forum.
ANyone can participate.
Ya i would who wouldnt want a replacement for a fish that arrived doa?
How about the texts you sent me calling me a, "f'n idiot"? I never lowered my standards to name calling. I never attacked you by name. I just stated possible simmilarities by looking at fish. I am not a drunk by no means. But on occasion I like to have a few drinks like any normal "joe". Our previous buisness was old news. Had nothing to do with this thread. But if you want to fire off attacks I have my ammo as well.

Im done with this thread for good. Wes I hope your buisness continues to thrive and you enjoy your endeavors. I wish you the best of luck.
er.... why am I quoted?:nilly:
 
Hey Gangster,

Yes, this is an open forum, but you derailed. You used this thread, a picture from someone attack me by saying that I'm a crooked person, I have to defend my character, in public, as this is my business as well that you are attacking. What you say, could have direct impact on my sales. Yes, in private txt, I asked you to call me, and you refused, and I tried to explain to you, and asked you why you are attacking me, you just kept beating around the bush. Hence the f'bombs., I love f'bombs, nothing conveys the message clearer.

Again I'm not normally petty like this, but this is again to defend my position, my business and character. You keep stating that you stand your ground, you have no ground to stand on. You flagrantly attacked me without provocation. When countered you have no explanation. http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?504785-New-Stocklist-10-2-12

do you see any annotations on how the fish were obtained?


on the previous doa and business, it does not belong on this thread, and your feelings don't belong here either. If you read my policy, it says must read, and following each doa policy it states clearly, at my discretion, which means, my choice. and for the people to know, I did replace you a 2nd fish, which you claim died, and also sold you a fish at half price as a bonus. then the following week you asked if you could have 2 more fish for the DOA. It doesn't even begin to make any sense, and that is when I told you that I would refund you completely, and for you not to deal with me anymore. Then you apologized for having had a drink too much. I never started any attacks, or any attacks in public forum. As soon as I saw you attack me, I txted you first!
I thank you for your last sentence on this post, as that is the most pleasant and mature thing I've heard you say this entire week.

It is an open forum.
ANyone can participate.
Ya i would who wouldnt want a replacement for a fish that arrived doa?
How about the texts you sent me calling me a, "f'n idiot"? I never lowered my standards to name calling. I never attacked you by name. I just stated possible simmilarities by looking at fish. I am not a drunk by no means. But on occasion I like to have a few drinks like any normal "joe". Our previous buisness was old news. Had nothing to do with this thread. But if you want to fire off attacks I have my ammo as well.

Im done with this thread for good. Wes I hope your buisness continues to thrive and you enjoy your endeavors. I wish you the best of luck.
 
Thanks for the support :)

Bro don't even sweat it. I've been in these for so long and all the OGs know your stuff is all the real deal. You've always brought in tons of rare fish, some fish that most vendors could never get and we all respect you and all you have done for us. If some of these dudes want to not trust their sources then they will never get the oppertunity to own rare fish ;)

Back when I was into cichla, it wasnt all about having azuls kelberi xingu or any of the rare fish like that. Ofcourse it was nice to own some but only person for a while that had azuls was DieselMack, yes thats how far back I am going lol, But we just apprechated the beauty of the bass, not collection point or how rare it was. Ive had plenty of azuls, kelberi, xingu ect but still loved orinos as my favorite bass. People need to start learning how to just apprechate the fish and how wonderful it is.
 
wow, i really feel embarrassed by some of the comments people post.this used to be a community of fish keepers and has now turned into a bunch of childish bs on this cichla forum as well as other areas. best of luck wes..i'll continue to buy from you.your a rare breed..dont let this get you down! cheers
 
Back when I was into cichla, it wasnt all about having azuls kelberi xingu or any of the rare fish like that. Ofcourse it was nice to own some but only person for a while that had azuls was DieselMack, yes thats how far back I am going lol, But we just apprechated the beauty of the bass, not collection point or how rare it was. Ive had plenty of azuls, kelberi, xingu ect but still loved orinos as my favorite bass. People need to start learning how to just apprechate the fish and how wonderful it is.

Hell yeah. Enjoy the fish for the fish.


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Humans are amazing things aren't they? Wes I'm looking forward to see what you bring in next, could you put me on your email list as well. I hope this whole debacle hasn't tarnished your reputation at all because if we ever lose assets like rare fish, D.O., and TUIC the detriment would be SO massive that I doubt the hobby would ever make a full recovery. Please never let the "Fish Fever" be cured and if you don't still have my email address it's caringtoncollingibson@gmail.com
 
Ok, apology accepted. I don't typically hold grudges. Life is too short for that.

Very cool hybrids! Look forward to seeing the development process.

Since Im done w/ the other thread. I would like to apologize for all the HS drama. Wes Im sorry for making such a scene. It wasnt neccesary for it to carry on so long. Sorry for the inconvienance.

NOw back to what makes our world go round. Cichla!
 
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