How much would you pay for these EBJD's?

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Really nice

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OP nice fish!

nice! Those are beautiful looking EBJD's! Keep us posted.

IMO, one true test of the EBJD's is to see what they look like at 6inches +. Many that attempt EBJD's never fully let the EBJD fully mature. Seen too many 3inch EBJD males breeding with 3inch JD females.


I completely agree with you! A lot of the ones that look amazing as 3 inchers are hideous in adulthood and shouldn't be reproduced. Right now I have one large female(6"+) that I want to spawn(working on a male for her now :drool: ). My other male is a stunner at 5" but needs to grow up a little before I start pairing him off with a female BGJD. It is really important, especially when breeding for non-deformed EBJDs, to wait until the fish is mature. That way you know exactly what you have to work with!
 
Maybe I read it wrong, but you breed the best looking male EBJD of each gen with a normal JD female, yes? How does that produce EBJD fry?




That rule of Mendelian genetic probability doesn't always apply. You get fewer blue but you still get them. You may rarely not get any if the few don't make it but you do get some. And sometimes you even get gold dempseys.. so how would you explain that?
Although come I think of it there's not really a way for me to be 100% sure the females had no blue gene at all since I don't know what previous batch the parents came from. I can only assure you that I got them from a regular "looking" JD male with regular "looking" JD female.
 
Nice ebjd, particularly pics 2 and 4 as it has more gold and not a beak like the other one has. I wouldnt pay more than 50-60 for that one but he is free of deformities.
Here's mine


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Yours looks good too. I can tell he'll be a good looking male by his pectoral fins. You need a darker substrate though that way he'll look bad ass, light substrate will wash out their natural colors since they tend to try to blend with their environment... It's a huge difference try it!
 
That rule of Mendelian genetic probability doesn't always apply. You get fewer blue but you still get them. You may rarely not get any if the few don't make it but you do get some. And sometimes you even get gold dempseys.. so how would you explain that?
Although come I think of it there's not really a way for me to be 100% sure the females had no blue gene at all since I don't know what previous batch the parents came from. I can only assure you that I got them from a regular "looking" JD male with regular "looking" JD female.

There is indeed exceptions to Mendelian Law of Genetics, that would lead to the offsprings not turn out as expected. Sometimes this is due to multiple chromosomes being passed on, rather than just one. Or none gets passed on. Sometimes it is due to mutations that occured in one of the parents, or in the offspring itself. Such as the appearance of xanthic coloration in Convicts, or albinism in whatever else - like gold coloration in JDs (though once they appear, it could be breed normally like any other trait). However this occurrences are relatively rare, and I doubt it'd happen for all three generations, unless it's a new genetic trait that creates the electric blue (which I doubt, because you're breeding EBJDs with 'normal' JDs to get more EBJDs). I am quite certain that unless somehow the same mutations are occuring in a bunch of your fry in each spawn (which isn't impossible), then the female is just a BGJD, and that the parents of said female is a BGJD and a normal JD.

But again, it may very well be that you got something special there. I highly doubt it tho. In all cases I've seen, EBJD x JD = 'normal' JD, which establishes the genetics of EB well (it being a completely recessive allele, 'normal-ness' being the dominant allele) so as stated, doubt that your case would be different from the norm and instead just be the usual EBJD x BGJD.
 
Awesome Jacks... If it wasnt so late... Id run down stairs to my fishroom and take videos of all my EBJD's that I have...including ONE wierd looking GoldBJxEBJD fry at 1 inch. This was the only odd ball one I had with that cross...
 
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