Making Crocodile Gars

[pharmaecopia]

I'd agree with your thought on how much food the florida would eat. Just way less mass than a bass of the same size. Gators is a whole different story though.

What is the current alligator gar count anyways? 2 or 4? Or am I way off?

 

[E_americanus]

-planning on moving most of my big gars to Shedd Aquarium with me...they should have plenty of space there, and after all, that's where the first official documentation of gar hybridization came from --
--SRD

 

[Wiggles92]

I'd agree with your thought on how much food the florida would eat. Just way less mass than a bass of the same size. Gators is a whole different story though.

What is the current alligator gar count anyways? 2 or 4? Or am I way off?

Just two alligator gars. There would've been more, but the grow-outs from last year didn't want to grow like typical alligator gars.

-planning on moving most of my big gars to Shedd Aquarium with me...they should have plenty of space there, and after all, that's where the first official documentation of gar hybridization came from --
--SRD

Going to make some interesting hybrids? Tropical gar x Cuban gar?

 

[E_americanus]

Just two alligator gars. There would've been more, but the grow-outs from last year didn't want to grow like typical alligator gars.



Going to make some interesting hybrids? Tropical gar x Cuban gar?

we could probably do that now since my CBGs are over 7 years old and we have mature female TPGs...--
--solomon

PS - just don't want to lose those fishes in the process at the moment!

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

That's why I'm hoping that I have female longnose gars & male alligator gars. I think I might buy up a few big old Florida gars come spring just to add them to the mix; they would serve as the test run to see if gars would successfully breed in that pond.

Get some shortys and gimme medius!!

 

[lix.ma14]

what's a crocodile gar? lol

 

[HungDang]

follow those people who do bowfishing for gar and ask them if you can keep the sperm

 

[Wiggles92]

we could probably do that now since my CBGs are over 7 years old and we have mature female TPGs...--
--solomon

PS - just don't want to lose those fishes in the process at the moment!

I bet you'll be able to pull it off naturally once you move them to larger quarters. Of course then, I bet that you've got some sort of method to pull it off otherwise, though.

Get some shortys and gimme medius!!

We've discussed this before; find me a source of adults, and we'll go from there.

what's a crocodile gar? lol

It's a term for hybrid gars. The term is most often used to describe gar hybrids that have an alligator gar as one of the parents and another species of gar (usually a Lepisosteus species) as the other parent.

follow those people who do bowfishing for gar and ask them if you can keep the sperm

That's actually a really good idea! I never even thought of that. They always discard the roe (eggs), too, as they're poisonous to people & most other animals, so that would be an easy way to obtain eggs. However, the process of making sure they're viable & getting them mixed with the milt (sperm) might prove difficult as timing is key; getting any eggs to hatch & develop into sizable gars would be even more difficult as Solomon can attest to.

 

[E_americanus]

-although we may be able to get them to spawn naturally (especially with such large quarters), if we did attempt a spawning (for experiments) we would probably still use some hormones. right now virtually all the fish in the collection are mature except for the gator (and Croc II is likely infertile, but who knows). another good thing about Shedd is a nearly endless supply of zooplankton for the larvae...which would have come in handy with our UM-SNRE experiments back in the day!!!--
--solomon

 

[Wiggles92]

-although we may be able to get them to spawn naturally (especially with such large quarters), if we did attempt a spawning (for experiments) we would probably still use some hormones. right now virtually all the fish in the collection are mature except for the gator (and Croc II is likely infertile, but who knows). another good thing about Shedd is a nearly endless supply of zooplankton for the larvae...which would have come in handy with our UM-SNRE experiments back in the day!!!--
--solomon

Now you'll just have to keep an fry separate so that they don't eat each other, and you'll already be a step ahead of Shedd from when they produced Croc III's.