Blue gene Jack Dempsey - Costs?

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msheresy

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What is the going rate for 2-2.5 in blue gene jack dempseys?

I have some that I'm offering to my local club for sale but I'm not sure what to charge. I want to know what's fair price is. Suggestions?
 
what is the percentage that they throw out Blue frys? if its 50/50, id say 15.00 but if its 25/75 ( 25 being Blues ) then 6.00 or 7.00...
 
livebearerfreak

He said it was a "blue gene jack dempsey". In any given scenario there is only one ratio for each possible mate.

If mated to a non-BG the ratio is 0/50/50 (EB/BG/NON)
If mated to a BG the ratio is 25/50/25 (EB/BG/NON) -minus a percentage to account for deaths in weak EB fry
If mated to an EB the ratio will be 50/50/0 (EB/BG/NON) -minus a percentage to account for deaths in weak EB fry

IF msheresy obtained the fish as a result of a BG to BG mating. Then no ratio can be created since we do not know if each of the fry have BG or NON(not). IF this is the case, they should not be sold as BG but as "possible BG" or PGB

PGB go for the same price as NON-BGs.
Known BGs if you are positive they are BGs would be based on conformation and size. Fry up to one inch about ~$5.oo USD
 
I'm not sure. I bought a large group of large fry at my fall club auction back in September. They were brought to the auction by Ken Davis. I'm assuming they were bred in his hatchery in statham, ga.
 
krustyart said:
livebearerfreak

He said it was a "blue gene jack dempsey". In any given scenario there is only one ratio for each possible mate.

If mated to a non-BG the ratio is 0/50/50 (EB/BG/NON)
If mated to a BG the ratio is 25/50/25 (EB/BG/NON) -minus a percentage to account for deaths in weak EB fry
If mated to an EB the ratio will be 50/50/0 (EB/BG/NON) -minus a percentage to account for deaths in weak EB fry

IF msheresy obtained the fish as a result of a BG to BG mating. Then no ratio can be created since we do not know if each of the fry have BG or NON(not)
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This may be true if the electric blue gene was due to a double recessive trait, but I have found that to not be the case. I have a pair of blue genes and the original owner was getting between 60-75% electric blue from the pair.... and yes, I have seen the fry. He had also mated an electric blue male to a blue gene female and produced less than 50% electric blue fry. I know that it doesn't make complete sense, but if you look into horse, cattle, dog breeding, etc. you can see how multiple genes affect certain traits.
 
He wouldn't of said these were blue gene unless they weren't. So I assumed that the parents were bgjdxebjd. Which would be 50/50 with the std genetics.
 
msheresy said:
I'm not sure. I bought a large group of large fry at my fall club auction back in September. They were brought to the auction by Ken Davis. I'm assuming they were bred in his hatchery in statham, ga.
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I don't know Ken Davis - I am fairly new to MFK.

1.) Do you trust him?
2.) Did he actually say they were Blue Genes or Possible Blue Genes?

Sorry, I did not see your last post until after I made this post.
 
tjrcf25 said:
This may be true if the electric blue gene was due to a double recessive trait, but I have found that to not be the case. I have a pair of blue genes and the original owner was getting between 60-75% electric blue from the pair.... and yes, I have seen the fry. He had also mated an electric blue male to a blue gene female and produced less than 50% electric blue fry. I know that it doesn't make complete sense, but if you look into horse, cattle, dog breeding, etc. you can see how multiple genes affect certain traits.
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I think breeders have established The Electric Blue gene as "Simple Recessive , Semi-Lethal"
Many of the females Electeric Blues die in egg or fry stage making the ratios look non-Mendelian even though they are. Also I have seen some EBs looking quite non-EBish at times...

Sorry I got this thread off topic. Topic was price of small BGJDs... continue...
 
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