The ban that was on in South America has been lifted recently. Therefore a lot of pseudas and the like are now available. You can find larger indiviuals on aquabid all the time now. As far as breeding the L-25's and 24's are next to impossible unless you have a pond with mud banks. Not saying it can't be done but it can take years. I had a trio of L-600's in a 200 gallon for 4 years and no breeding ever occurred. Then male then killed the two females over the 4 year period and I gave him to someone on this site.