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Also as for putting the jags in the same tank as the grammy without quarantine. I assumed they would be completely healthy fish coming from a reputable source and didn't notice the couple of white specks on their fins until they were already in the tank. And they're hardly packed in, these are still juvi fish, not 10"+ adults.

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So does the grammodes even eat pellets?


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Honestly, not really. I see him nibble at the Sinking Carnivore pellets once in a while but outside of that, all he eats is pieces of freeze dried mysis shrimp and earth worms if The bichir leaves them alone for long enough. Also tried to get him on NLS Thera A but he ignores that too and it just ends up sitting at the bottom of the tank for the bichir to eventually eat. Tried everything from starving to dipping the pellets in mashed garlic, nothing worked. The only prepared food he really eats is freeze dried mysis shrimp, I'm going to be trying frozen foods on him next to give him some more variety. That's why I'm kind of surprised that he's grown .5" in the month or so that I've had him on basically scraps and very frequent water changes.
 
one of those fish will die as soon as the divider goes up jags ans grammodes are relentless. i have a 6-7'' breeding pair in a 240 and they about kill eachother and they have a 8x2x2 tank

Yeah, that's why the divider isn't going to go up, lol. I've got them secured pretty strongly with rocks and ziptied to suction cups. This is a temporary set-up only until I pass my African cichlids on to another member, then I'll have more tank space to work with for the mean time until I find the right deal on CL for a 125. Another reason why I am keeping the jags all together is to match their living conditions/water quality in a singular controlled environment without them having to physically compete against one another for food, dominance, etc. It's the most sure way for me to pick out and decide which one is my favorite in appearance and attitude.
 
Freeze dried mysis and earthworms even though you think is much better/natural diet than pellets are not going to provide the proper nutrition for the granmodes. Someone who knows what they're doing shouldn't have any issues pellets training a fish....


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When I say he eats Mysis Shrimp and earth worms, I'm talking maybe half of an earth worm per week and maybe 2 pieces of mysis shrimp a day. I also always throw in NLS Thera A pellets and Sinking Carnivore pellets twice a day as well, only seen him nibble at them once and then never again after that. Only thing he ever ate with gusto was tubifex worms that I was feeding to my new baby ornate. I know I should starve him or feed only pellets until he gets the idea and I tried that for about 2 weeks before giving in. Could try to go longer but this guy is the pickiest little fish I've ever had.
 
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Jeeze,.......lol, I was laughing, almost spit my coffee all over the keyboard.

I can't condone or approve putting new fish directly into an established comunity. While ich is fairly innocuous, the potential, as pointed out above for far greater threats to your fish could be present. I got a couple of chocolates three weeks ago and just introduced them into one of my main display tanks. I still worried I was putting them in with my wild peruvian angels too soon. I don't care if you run one tank or a hundred, what is important is the level of care that someone puts into their fushkeeping endevors. I would rather keep one tank in prestine condition than 50 wreaking cesspools. Quality not quantity.

I'm far from perfect and have done (and will do) more things wrong then I care to admit. I've also killed more fish while learing this "hobbie" then some people may ever own, nothing to be proud of but unfortunatly a true statement. If all my mistakes where printed for everyone to read not only would no one would listen to a word I had to say, I would have been laughed off the site long ago. The thing is we have to try not to repeat the same mistakes over and over, learn from it, shake it off and move on. We need to be supportive of one another, we come here because we share an interest in the same hobby. No matter how long we've been playing with fish we can still learn something from each other.
 
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