Are there 2 different types of AT Datnioidies?

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I've got a question for all you Dat keepers, are there 2 different types of American/Silver Datnoids? When you look up American Datnoids/Silver Dat's on the net you more often than not get pics like this.
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Datnioides quadrifasciatus, a fish that in my opinion resembles Datnioides campbelli in most respects except coloration. Small eyes in relation to body, large scales a circle mark buried in the first bar behind the eye and a more perch like body than other Dat's. Some internet sites state that Datnioides quadrifasciatus has been renamed Datnioides Polota, how ever when you search for Datnioides Polota images you get a fish that resembles a washed out Indo Dat. Large eyes in relation to body size, small scales and thicker barring like the fish pictured below.
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My question is are there 2 different American Tigers/ Silver Datnoides or are the sites that state that Polota and Quadrifascaitus are the same fish right? I ask because both fish pictured are mine and I recently obtained them from 2 different vendors both vendors stating that the fish in question are American Dat's/Silver Tigers. I obtained 3 resembling the first pic with small eyes in relation to body, circle mark in the first bar behind the eye and large scales from OceanState on here. Then a single specimen resembling the second picture with large eyes in relation to body, small scales and typical Dat body shape. Besides the differences in looks they are also very different personality wise. The 3 AT's/ST's I got from OceanState are bold nippy little things and upon introduction to my tank became instantly stable. The other AT/ST was timid at first but became hand tame quickly accepting feeders from my hand and now is eating Hikari stuffed market shrimp, he's also still the least aggressive Dat.

So anyone have an opinion on whether there's more than one kind of American/Silver datnoid? Are Polota and Quadrifasciatus one in the same or are they 2 different species of Datnoid? Do I have 3 real American/Silver Datnoids and one washed out Indo or do I have 4 American/Silver Dat's one a Polota and 3 Quadrifasciatus?

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I've got a question for all you Dat keepers, are there 2 different types of American/Silver Datnoids? When you look up American Datnoids/Silver Dat's on the net you more often than not get pics like this.
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Datnioides quadrifasciatus, a fish that in my opinion resembles Datnioides campbelli in most respects except coloration. Small eyes in relation to body, large scales a circle mark buried in the first bar behind the eye and a more perch like body than other Dat's. Some internet sites state that Datnioides quadrifasciatus has been renamed Datnioides Polota, how ever when you search for Datnioides Polota images you get a fish that resembles a washed out Indo Dat. Large eyes in relation to body size, small scales and thicker barring like the fish pictured below.
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My question is are there 2 different American Tigers/ Silver Datnoides or are the sites that state that Polota and Quadrifascaitus are the same fish right? I ask because both fish pictured are mine and I recently obtained them from 2 different vendors both vendors stating that the fish in question are American Dat's/Silver Tigers. I obtained 3 resembling the first pic with small eyes in relation to body, circle mark in the first bar behind the eye and large scales from OceanState on here. Then a single specimen resembling the second picture with large eyes in relation to body, small scales and typical Dat body shape. Besides the differences in looks they are also very different personality wise. The 3 AT's/ST's I got from OceanState are bold nippy little things and upon introduction to my tank became instantly stable. The other AT/ST was timid at first but became hand tame quickly accepting feeders from my hand and now is eating Hikari stuffed market shrimp, he's also still the least aggressive Dat.

So anyone have an opinion on whether there's more than one kind of American/Silver datnoid? Are Polota and Quadrifasciatus one in the same or are they 2 different species of Datnoid? Do I have 3 real American/Silver Datnoids and one washed out Indo or do I have 4 American/Silver Dat's one a Polota and 3 Quadrifasciatus?

3 Americans and 1 Indo to me


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3 Americans and 1 Indo to me


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Thanks for the input and opinion bro, I appreciate it.

You're not a dat keeper :p

I was told its about the collection point and brackish compared to fresh. Some will be lighter/silver while some may be a little tan. I would ask RD. Or wait ffor him.

My fish life is sparked up with Polys :)

Thanks for the info. bro. There's also the body differences that have me questioning the I.D., they're very different looking from each other. That's why I'm not sure if one is a light colored Indo. Can I ask whose RD(not sure if RD is their username or just an abbreviation for their username), maybe I can pm them and get their opinion in case they miss the thread. Good luck with the Poly's too, my personal fave is the Weeksii unfortunately every time they came around I was short on cash.
 
No problem. Yes his user name is RD. (Period included I'm 90% sure) why thank you yea ploys are hard to come by here including senegals

My fish life is sparked up with Polys :)
 
No problem. Yes his user name is RD. (Period included I'm 90% sure) why thank you yea ploys are hard to come by here including senegals

My fish life is sparked up with Polys :)
No thank you bro, and with patience and persistence I'm sure you'll amass a enviable poly collection.

May i ask where you purchased these from? Which vendors?


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I got the three from Ocean State Aquatics on here and the other I've got to check my records. I bought the single on a whim and don't recall where, but luckily I keep records. So I'll get back to you on where I obtained the single one.
 
No thank you bro, and with patience and persistence I'm sure you'll amass a enviable poly collection.


I got the three from Ocean State Aquatics on here and the other I've got to check my records. I bought the single on a whim and don't recall where, but luckily I keep records. So I'll get back to you on where I obtained the single one.

That's a beautiful 3 bar indo and I want him lol.


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I've got a question for all you Dat keepers, are there 2 different types of American/Silver Datnoids? When you look up American Datnoids/Silver Dat's on the net you more often than not get pics like this.
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Datnioides quadrifasciatus, a fish that in my opinion resembles Datnioides campbelli in most respects except coloration. Small eyes in relation to body, large scales a circle mark buried in the first bar behind the eye and a more perch like body than other Dat's. Some internet sites state that Datnioides quadrifasciatus has been renamed Datnioides Polota, how ever when you search for Datnioides Polota images you get a fish that resembles a washed out Indo Dat. Large eyes in relation to body size, small scales and thicker barring like the fish pictured below.
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So anyone have an opinion on whether there's more than one kind of American/Silver datnoid? Are Polota and Quadrifasciatus one in the same or are they 2 different species of Datnoid? Do I have 3 real American/Silver Datnoids and one washed out Indo or do I have 4 American/Silver Dat's one a Polota and 3 Quadrifasciatus?
Polota and Qudrifaciatus are one and the same..Polota is a more recent name for the species as I understand it and it sounds like you have three silvers and one indo.The fish pictured are one silver and one indo.



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