Stocking ideas for an odd sized 209 gallon tank

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This spring I am looking to build a 4x4ft wide/long by 21 inch tall tank. I plan on keeping a pair of (young) Carpintis Vontehillo in there as well as a Pleco. I also have a pair of Salvini but I am not to sure if I will be putting them in there with the Carpintis or not.

According to http://www.fishlore.com/ConversionCalculator.htm that comes out to just over 209 gallons. I am thinking about stocking some other fish but I know my biggest hurtle is the fact that even though it is the fact it will only be 4 feet long at its longest in reality. I am considering putting a large piece of driftwood in the center, a stump if I can find one. I also want to try to add some plants like perhaps some lily pads and some hardy underwater plants, but not to many though as I know Cichlids seem to love to uproot them.

Some one has mentioned possibly eartheaters but I am still pretty knew and are not familiar with those. So I figured I would ask to see what your thoughts and recommendations would be for additions to this future tank. O and just FYI atm the fish I currently have to put in this tank are small. I have one young 3-4 inch Male Carpintis and the pleco is also young and only around 7 inches long and looking to get a female to go with the male Carpintis. I am hoping to have the tank up and running by around June/July.

Any way, what would you guys recommend putting in this tank with a breeding pair of Carpintis?
 
Perfect ray tank. Though it's also a perfect tank for many other large fish. Any cichlid would do great, as well as larger catfish because of the wide footprint. I doubt the breeding pair would have any fry survive with a ray or catfish so I guess it's all about what your looking to accomplish in there. With that footprint you have the opportunity to keep some real monsters in my opinion I wouldn't waste an opportunity like that on a breeding pair of cichlids.


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Well I am taking this guys idea here.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwandSa_Hrg and instead of using two 130 gallon tanks and taking them apart I am planning on doing it
with 2 55 gallon fish tanks. Then for the floor I am planning on using 1inch ply and a 2x4 frame under that with epoxy on top for the floor. Then take the front and back from the two 55s
silicone them in place like he did. On top though I am planning on using wood all the way around with two cross supports making + over the tank.

Any way, I was afraid with only having it 4 feet wide at its widest that large cichlids would have no where to escape each other. I am not real worried about a breeding pair producing fry, it was more for fun to see than any thing. If I was going to be serious about breeding I would just buy a smaller tank. What about an all Male tank? I also have some Midas (2 inchers, maaayybe one thats 3) that I have in with my Salvini atm that I was not sure about keeping any, perhaps I will keep a male out of that group.

I would like to have a few different large cichlids in this aquarium is what I really want, I was just afraid it wouldn't be long enough.
 
Had to correct the spelling for you lol. Why is 4x4 bad dimensions?

Lol spelling:) I guess it would depend on what fish you wanted to keep in there. I think that a 4' tank of any size used for sa/ca cichlids would be ok for housing an average (6-12") pair or a small community if smaller cichlids ranging from 4-6" max growth. I believe the op is wanting a male community of the average to larger cichlids most topping out around 15" or so and I agree that the 4x4' footprint isn't ideal. IMO the footprint is everything when it comes to tank size and housing cichlids:)


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Well after talking with several people about what I am wanting to keep (Freshwaterpredators pretty much nailed it) this isn't going to work. I was considering this because it would not be as expensive as a typical plywood tank but I think in the long run it is going to be worth it to spend a little more time and money to build a longer plywood tank. Ideally I was originally thinking about a 8x2x2 or a 8x3x2 but after pricing Pond Armor plus shipping it was going to be pretty spendy for the amount I need. How ever I am thinking now I might just say screw it and go that rout lol.

The biggest thing is up here the thickest glass I have found on hand is 3/8s for $390 for the sheet sized at what I would need. If I went any thicker I am looking at even more in cost for the glass PLUS shipping costs as it would have to be shipped up here to Alaska. Secondly is the water proofing membrane. I was looking at using pond armor which was $319 for a gallon and a half, again plus shipping. So for the glass and membrane alone I am looking at close to $800 alone. I was looking at getting the Pond Armor from Home Depot (would have saved me at least $100 I am sure) but they wont ship it up to Alaska :(

Any way I think I am going to take this one back to the drawing board. I want to make sure I have it all figured out before I start to get any supplies or building.
 
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