Question about wood for Plecos

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Cueball703

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I had a 33 gallon fish tank for many years, up until about 12 years ago. At that time, I had to give up my fish tank, because I just did not have room for it any more. Well now, I've started up the hobby again, and made room for a new 72 gallon tank in my Living Room. I had to move some furniture around, but it fits perfectly.

I currently have 5 plecos in my tank (all different types). In my old tank (from 12 years ago), I used to have 2 plecos. When I first got my new fish tank (about 3 1/2 months ago) from a LFS, I had a list of several plecos which I was interested in choosing (for when the tank was all set up and ready to be populated). I had done a little reading on the different plecos, and some of them mentioned the need to have wood in the tank. I never had any real wood in my other tank (12 years ago), and my fish got along fine for the many years that I had them. Well, I asked this guy if he had any wood for this purpose, and he told me that he did not recommend I get any wood. He explained to me that the wood tends to turn the water brown and start to cloud it up, and it could also affect the PH balances in my water. OK... I just stuck with some nice tank decorations that look like tree stumps and logs (for the fish to swim around and hide).

When I acquired my most recent pleco from a different LFS, I told the salesman that I had 4 other plecos. He asked me what I was feeding my other plecos, and after I told him my routine, he said that this one should be fine on the same stuff. When he asked me if I had any wood in the tank for the plecos, I told him that I didn't. I had told him what the guy at the other LFS had told me. This salesman told me that wood is very important to have for plecos, not only as a part of their diet, but also as part of their natural habitat. He then told me that the placement of wood in my tank could cause what the other LFS had told me, but that I could avoid that by doing a very simple step. I selected 2 nice looking pieces of wood from this store. The salesman told me to take the wood, and boil it in a pot of water for about 30 minutes, and it would remove the tannins from the wood (which could cause all of the above mentioned).

OK... now more to my question...

As I took one of the pieces of wood and started to boil it in a pot, I saw the water turning very brown. After about 10 minutes, I spilled out all of the water and refilled the pot so that I could continue with this process. Each time, after the water came to a full boil, it would turn brown again. I just kept repeating this process for almost 3 hours (not the 30 minutes that the salesman told me to do), until the water was just a slight tint of brown. That piece of wood has now been placed in my fish tank. I have seen 2 of my plecos sucking on the wood, but only for a few minutes. They did not appear to be very interested in it, although I couldn't say if they may be going back to it at night (when everything is dark, and I'm not watching them). My question is, should I have boiled the wood as long as I did, or could I have removed some valuable nutrients for the plecos by boiling the wood as long as I did? Should I start all over again with a freshly bought piece of wood from the LFS?
 
You dont need to buy another piece and by boiling it you destroyed possible parasites or snail eggs so you did a good thing :) pleco will suck on it if he will feel comfortable on wood,otherwise it will ignore it and suck on something else :) no need to worry about it.. If you ask me - only thing important at wood for plecos is that it has flat surface where he can suck onto and rest for whole afternoon :)

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So, I didn't over-boil it (is there even such a thing as that... lol)? And yes... The wood does have some flat surface areas on it where a pleco can just rest on it (just not several at the same time).
 
I have observed plecos sucking up wood... =) not that they do really will eat it up as a whole but only somehow eat little by little, and from what you did yep, you did the right thing, there's no over boiling it, and if you already did that part, the wood will crumble and start showing cracks due to over boiling but normally that wouldn't even happen and It seems never really did happened in anyone's part.
 
You did fine by boiling the wood. Normally you can boil or soak it to remove heavy tannins but it will still leech some tannins for a long while. The wood in the water makes your water more acidic, and simulates the plecos natural environment. If it clouds the water, its not a good wood for the tank. Once the wood is in the tank for awhile it will develop a film of algae and detritus and whatever other microorganisms(called aufwuchs), and that is what most plecos love to feed on. But you should still give them fresh fruits and vegetables as well. :-)


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Wood is needed for some plecos while with others it isn't. Panaques do need wood whereas a common, not really. I always try to keep a small piece at least for 'extra' but I never see my pleco(s) near it. I mostly keep common type plecos.

To advice you to the fullest. You should list the type of plecos you have.


Also, I've always seen wood turn my tanks yellow-brown. Decent water changes will keep this down.
 
To advice you to the fullest. You should list the type of plecos you have.


Also, I've always seen wood turn my tanks yellow-brown. Decent water changes will keep this down.

I have the following plecos:
1 Leopard Sailfin Pleco (about 5 1/2 inches).
1 Green Phantom Pleco (a little over 3 inches).
1 Golden Nugget Pleco (a little over 2 inches).
1 Plue Panaque Pleco (about 2 inches).
1 Gold Tiger Pleco (1 inch).

I think I may have boiled most of the tannins out of the wood (from what I described in my OP), so I shouldn't really have any major problem. Currently, I have been cleaning my tank once a week, draining out about 15 gallons of water in the process, and replacing that. I have a Fluval 406 Filter. Once a month, I change some of the charcoal and bio-thingies (real techie term there), and I replace half of the foam pads (basically following the instructions of the LFS --- not to replace everything all at once, but to alternate what I replace within the filter).

My water tests have been coming out almost perfect: PH between 7.0 and 7.2. Hard water clean. Nitrites near zero. Ammonia at zero. The only thing a little high is my nitrates (fluctuating between 80-160), and I know that can be attributed to the Pleco's waste. Once I clean the tank, the nitrates drop back down again. All my other fish seem to be thriving in the tank (2 Angels, 2 Gold Mollies, 6 Fancy Guppies, 8 Zebra Botias). My next tank cleaning and replacement of the water is in 3 days. I'll do the water tests before the tank cleaning, to see if wood addition affected the water at all.
 
I believe panaques are the only pleco that truly eats a significant portion of wood as part of it's normal diet in the wild. Since you do have a panaque, I would keep it in there for him to munch on.

They don't solely eat wood, so just keep feeding them as you would the others, and the panaque will probably just chew on the wood in the tank whenever he feels like it.
 
Not sure what a gold tiger is but a blue panaque would warrant the need for wood
My bad... Tiger Pleco (L002 or L0074). When I bought it, I was told it was a Gold Tiger Pleco, but looking at it, it looks like the L002 or 74. Right now, because he's still a little runt, he mixes in perfectly with my Zebra Botias (and sometimes I can't spot him when they're all scurrying about for food).
 
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