I just got a baby tank raised fahaka at about 1 inch and I had the lfs hold and treat him for a week before I got him so problem solved for me haha
Treating baby fahaka puffer
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LOL, you're really reaching here. Sure, that's a viable option and can work, but the simple fact is that various internal parasite medications dosed in the water column can be quite effective on freshwater fish. I don't know where you came up with this hair brained theory that they don't work at all... I wonder how the nicotine in a cigarette ever enters the bloodstream of a smoker if they aren't eating the tobacco?
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+1. And to pufferpunk, I suggest you do a little research before posting the same bad information on every IP puffer thread. it confused a lot of people and makes something as simple as dosing the water, a very complex and confusing issue. If you go back and re-read what Oddball wrote, it's a bit more detailed. And I trust his word over yours.
Freshwater fish rarely drink water. They are hypertonic to the water around them and thus cannot avoid taking up H2O by osmosis through their skin and gills. But that is pure H20, just water, not the things dissolved in it.
Marine fish are the opposite - they are hypotonic to their surrounding and so lose water (just water, not the things dissolved in it) to their surroundings. This means that they must drink water constantly and excrete the excess minerals taken in by doing that.
Again: SW fish are hypotonic to the surrounding SW so must drink almost constantly and dump the excess minerals by not taking them up through the gut wall, and/or by dumping them in the urine. FW fish are hypertonic to the surrounding water, so do not drink as they absorb water through their skins constantly - but dissolved meds will not be absorbed - it is just pure H20 that passes through. (dissolved materials are excluded).
That seems confusing to many folks, but it is the way the world works.
Marine fish are the opposite - they are hypotonic to their surrounding and so lose water (just water, not the things dissolved in it) to their surroundings. This means that they must drink water constantly and excrete the excess minerals taken in by doing that.
Again: SW fish are hypotonic to the surrounding SW so must drink almost constantly and dump the excess minerals by not taking them up through the gut wall, and/or by dumping them in the urine. FW fish are hypertonic to the surrounding water, so do not drink as they absorb water through their skins constantly - but dissolved meds will not be absorbed - it is just pure H20 that passes through. (dissolved materials are excluded).
That seems confusing to many folks, but it is the way the world works.
Fortunately for the aquaculture and aquarium industry, that is not the way the world works. I suggest you actually do research before posting as an "authority" on the Internet.
Since Oddball likes Prazi...
Effectiveness of Praziquantel Bath Treatments against Bothriocephalus acheilognathi in Grass Carp
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1577/H03-054.1
Abstract:
Many states ban the importation of fish infected with the Asian tapeworm Bothriocephalus acheilognathi. Treatment with an effective tapeworm parasiticide prior to shipment would allow fish to be imported that might otherwise be rejected. In this study, extended praziquantel bath treatments of infected grass carp Ctenopharyngodon idella were tested to determine their efficacy against Asian tapeworms. Preliminary praziquantel treatments of 0.7 mg/L or more for an exposure period of 24 h at grass carp densities of 69 g/L were effective in eliminating all tapeworms from 22-g fish.
Removal and Quantification of Asian Tapeworm from Bonytail Chub Using Praziquantel
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1577/A06-054.1
Abstract:
The spread of the Asian tapeworm Bothriocephalus acheilognathi has been identified as a potential threat to endangered cyprinid fishes, such as bonytail Gila elegans and humpback chub G. cypha. Praziquantel is often used to remove Asian tapeworms from these species, but little information is available on the effectiveness or side effects of these treatments. I performed laboratory experiments using bonytails (110–457 mm total length) to evaluate the dosage and time needed to effectively remove 100% of Asian tapeworms using praziquantel. A low dose of 0.7 mg/L for 24 h was not effective at removing all Asian tapeworms, whereas a 24-h exposure at 1.5 mg/L and higher was 100% effective.
I could go on but I think you get the point.
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Since Oddball likes Prazi...
Effectiveness of Praziquantel Bath Treatments against Bothriocephalus acheilognathi in Grass Carp
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1577/H03-054.1
Abstract:
Many states ban the importation of fish infected with the Asian tapeworm Bothriocephalus acheilognathi. Treatment with an effective tapeworm parasiticide prior to shipment would allow fish to be imported that might otherwise be rejected. In this study, extended praziquantel bath treatments of infected grass carp Ctenopharyngodon idella were tested to determine their efficacy against Asian tapeworms. Preliminary praziquantel treatments of 0.7 mg/L or more for an exposure period of 24 h at grass carp densities of 69 g/L were effective in eliminating all tapeworms from 22-g fish.
Removal and Quantification of Asian Tapeworm from Bonytail Chub Using Praziquantel
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1577/A06-054.1
Abstract:
The spread of the Asian tapeworm Bothriocephalus acheilognathi has been identified as a potential threat to endangered cyprinid fishes, such as bonytail Gila elegans and humpback chub G. cypha. Praziquantel is often used to remove Asian tapeworms from these species, but little information is available on the effectiveness or side effects of these treatments. I performed laboratory experiments using bonytails (110–457 mm total length) to evaluate the dosage and time needed to effectively remove 100% of Asian tapeworms using praziquantel. A low dose of 0.7 mg/L for 24 h was not effective at removing all Asian tapeworms, whereas a 24-h exposure at 1.5 mg/L and higher was 100% effective.
I could go on but I think you get the point.
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I've treated whole aquariums of fish and inverts for IPs using prazi tabs with excellent results. Nothing special, just dropped the tabs in the filter where they were dissolved and pumped into the aquarium.
Water isn't the only thing that gets absorbed through the gills and skin.
Water isn't the only thing that gets absorbed through the gills and skin.
Well, to be fair there is always a time and place for force feeding... there are some fish that are just so far along that unless you force feed them there are only two options; 1 kill it, and 2, watch it die slowly...
In those cases, i would rather try my luck force feeding the fish to give it a 2nd chance, then to have to kill it or watch it die slowly...
