hospital tank??

[JwHiser13]

This. Epsom salt works well too just takes a bit longer


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They would be in quarantine for at least four weeks, Epsom would work well in that time frame. Besides why rush and put your new fish through the added stress of medication. They have their place don't get me wrong but only in extremes IMO.


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[Drstrangelove]

All fish carry ick, stress and poor water quality among other things can make them succumb to it.


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I think that this is false. If it was true, then why would turning the temp up and waiting 2 weeks eradicate all the ick permanently? Fish are certainly under stress from the heat and yet the ich goes away for good unless it is re-introduced to the tank.

I've had tanks for years where I never added new fish and never had an ich outbreak. I wish I was that good at water maintenance, but it was easy to do with no parasites present.

To identify ich in the quarantine tank, the temp has to be high enough for it to progress in it's life cycle before the quarantine period has elapsed. The lower the temp, the longer it takes.


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[strollo22]

I dose my tanks with prazi whenever I add a new fish. I wish I had a hospital tank. I'm not a patient person so the 4-6 weeks with epsom salt won't work for me. I'd rather prazi for a week then monitor for a week. Not saying Epsom salt is wrong but it's not for me


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[JwHiser13]

I don't think this is true. If it was, then why would turning the temp up and waiting 2 weeks eradicate all the ick permanently?

I've had tanks for years where I never added new fish and never had an ich outbreak.

Like I said previously, water quality and stress among other things can make fish succumb to ick, and plenty of other illnesses as well. There are quite a few books on fish illness and diseases out there, check one out bro, there's a lot that would surprise even the most advanced hobbyist. There are also peeps out there with the same "kept tanks for many years without adding anything new" whom have had ick and other outbreaks of disease. Didn't make it up, promise!


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[JwHiser13]

I dose my tanks with prazi whenever I add a new fish. I wish I had a hospital tank. I'm not a patient person so the 4-6 weeks with epsom salt won't work for me. I'd rather prazi for a week then monitor for a week. Not saying Epsom salt is wrong but it's not for me


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4-6 weeks is the standard quarantine period, not how long Epsom salt takes to work. Generally you quarantine to monitor the fish to see if there are any protozoa or infections only medicating if there is any signs of the aforementioned, not quarantine to medicate. Only bad things happen fast in this hobby as one of my mentors told me once! But I was only suggesting an alternative to medicating fish sense it is still not know as to what the side effect or adverse reactions are with any meds. To each their own brother! What kind of fish are you getting anyway? Hints!!!!


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[Drstrangelove]

Like I said previously, water quality and stress among other things can make fish succumb to ick, and plenty of other illnesses as well. There are quite a few books on fish illness and diseases out there, check one out bro, there's a lot that would surprise even the most advanced hobbyist. There are also peeps out there with the same "kept tanks for many years without adding anything new" whom have had ick and other outbreaks of disease. Didn't make it up, promise!


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I posted a link which was done to show why I said what I said.

Parasites don't spontaneously erupt. They are living organisms and the ich parasite has been heavily studied. It doesn't have a stage where it lies dormant in gravel or inside fish or in the air or in old filters for months at tropical temps. If you don't see it for months, that's because it isn't there. It doesn't wait for stress or bad water quality to come out.

from the article I posted:

"There is no "dormant" independent, long-term encysted life stage separate from a host fish for Ichthyophthirius multifiliis. This is useful to know. You will often hear to the contrary. Dr. Peter Burgess, who took Ichthyophthirius multifiliis as his Ph.D. subject at Plymouth University, mentioned among Ich "old wives' tales" that "It's present in all aquariums." "What utter rubbish" noted Dr. Burgess (in the November 2001 Practical Fishkeeping). Brits don't mince words."

 

[evox53187]

no rush what so ever. I just want to make sure I am doing everything right. so just use api general cure for a couple weeks and everything should be fine?

 

[evox53187]

not sure yet I have a 125 gallon tank with a Oscar and a dragon fish with 1 pleco.. any ideas. all the fish are still young??

 

[JwHiser13]

I posted a link which was done to show why I said what I said.

Parasites don't spontaneously erupt. They are living organisms and the ich parasite has been heavily studied. It doesn't have a stage where it lies dormant in gravel or inside fish or in the air or in old filters for months at tropical temps. If you don't see it for months, that's because it isn't there. It doesn't wait for stress or bad water quality to come out.

from the article I posted:

"There is no "dormant" independent, long-term encysted life stage separate from a host fish for Ichthyophthirius multifiliis. This is useful to know. You will often hear to the contrary. Dr. Peter Burgess, who took Ichthyophthirius multifiliis as his Ph.D. subject at Plymouth University, mentioned among Ich "old wives' tales" that "It's present in all aquariums." "What utter rubbish" noted Dr. Burgess (in the November 2001 Practical Fishkeeping). Brits don't mince words."

Wow, thank you! I stand corrected! Haven't had sick fish in several years so guess I should update my book on disease lol! Owe you one bro!


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[JwHiser13]

no rush what so ever. I just want to make sure I am doing everything right. so just use api general cure for a couple weeks and everything should be fine?

Sure it would, I'm not one to use meds unless absolutely necessary but I do know there are two sides to every book. I've always quarantined to check for any problems and used methods to treat if problems came about.


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