i dont care if you hate me for this

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo

jagsandpits

Plecostomus
MFK Member
Dec 14, 2012
1,421
26
51
NewYork
just wondering why people think that you cant get quality fish from anywere other than rapps or umbeeman whatever his name is. it doesn't take a master genius to get a hold of a nice looking fish, breed it ,then sell the rest out. I ask "does anyone have any true green terrors for sale" and everyone says "I know a guy in timbucktoo ,oh and jeff rapps too hes prob your only shot" so what your telling me is if im looking for a terror I cant get it anywere else I think theres a lot of you know what riders on here and it looks stupid from an outside view. im sure jeff is one of a few importers of it im not saying hes not he obviously is but he has probly sold thousands of them and its not like other people don't breed em ive seen plenty on here. hes just a dude who likes to breed and sell fish that has a rep for being reliable and he happens to makes a living out of it hes not the messiah of fish. if I don't want to spend all that money on shipping for a 2 inch fish why does that make me ridiculous? when people throw out a "big name" they feel cool an if you don't become a member of the jeff rapps supporters you have to be subject to ridicule. smh cmon now. and another thing. stop trashing the next mans advice because you think yours is better when both pieces of advice are in the same ballpark. atleast 70 percent of members on here run amazing tanks with great success yet we all think we know more than the next. everyone wants to stand over everyone else with ther advice when really no ones any better than anyone. the hobby is supposed to be fun. I post threads all the time and I always get like 75 posts and I lose track of everything because everyone is bashing on everyone getting into arguments and offending people over advice.
 
Like I said to you in the thread if you want quality fish or anything in this hobby you have to pay top dollar. You can find green terrors in any fish store but stalsbergi (true green terror) are not easily obtained. That why your paying $25 for a 1-2" fish.


Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
 
I agree, a name isn't everything. Its like the whole apple vs. everyone else, there's one company that's huge and everyone knows the product is good so the people who rep it tote the hell out of it. Same with everyone else though, I'm sure some other people have a place to get true GTs w/o going through that particular human being. Aquascape has WC ecuadoran green terrors right now I believe, at least they are on the website. I don't know what a "true" green terror is though so they may not be "true"

Sent from my DROID4 using MonsterAquariaNetwork App
 
I agree, a name isn't everything. Its like the whole apple vs. everyone else, there's one company that's huge and everyone knows the product is good so the people who rep it tote the hell out of it. Same with everyone else though, I'm sure some other people have a place to get true GTs w/o going through that particular human being. Aquascape has WC ecuadoran green terrors right now I believe, at least they are on the website. I don't know what a "true" green terror is though so they may not be "true"

Sent from my DROID4 using MonsterAquariaNetwork App

They aren't.


Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
 
They aren't.


Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app

David,

I saw them, there were some, just not split out. The only way to get the harder to find stuff (not paying a premium) is to find places that direct import and then be there to pick through them. In the jungle they don't care stahls silver saum,gold saum. they lump green terrors together and ship. Perfect example of this is payara, everyone on here can tell the diff between a scomb and a tat but when they come over..no one know whats showing till it shows.

That being said. if you want to guarantee what you are getting you pay the premium for someone to get the specific species or line. Hence why rapps and some of the other vendors are revered because you get what you order.
 
I agree with that too, if you want a hard to find fish you better be willing to pay up to the guys with the skills and connections to get them. hell if I had the funds and space I would have bought that 20 inch sp. Dabola bichir jurassic aquatics had for 500$, but then again I don't mind spending a crap ton of money on fish :) haha its easy when you don't give a hoot about other materialistic crap, like getting new shoes or clothes once in a while. I get a new pair of shoes once a year haha and usually clothes are the same.

Sent from my DROID4 using MonsterAquariaNetwork App
 
............ if I don't want to spend all that money on shipping for a 2 inch fish why does that make me ridiculous? ...........
No. but if you ask people for directions they are gonna mention reputable sources that do shipping too.
If you want to go look for fish, then Hit The Pavement where you live. or post a question specifically asking for decent stores in Your area. People are nice enough to answer any questions. try asking for what you are interested in instead of chewing everyone out.
This thread just sounds grumpy ;-)
 
David,

I saw them, there were some, just not split out. The only way to get the harder to find stuff (not paying a premium) is to find places that direct import and then be there to pick through them. In the jungle they don't care stahls silver saum,gold saum. they lump green terrors together and ship. Perfect example of this is payara, everyone on here can tell the diff between a scomb and a tat but when they come over..no one know whats showing till it shows.

That being said. if you want to guarantee what you are getting you pay the premium for someone to get the specific species or line. Hence why rapps and some of the other vendors are revered because you get what you order.

That's true Jay and that's what I tried to explain to him when I said if he wants top quality pay top dollar. I personally wouldn't buy aquascape's. not saying they aren't wild or good quality but if I wanted a specific fish and knew "tom" was well known and has what I'm looking for why keep looking.


Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
 
That's true Jay and that's what I tried to explain to him when I said if he wants top quality pay top dollar. I personally wouldn't buy aquascape's. not saying they aren't wild or good quality but if I wanted a specific fish and knew "tom" was well known and has what I'm looking for why keep looking.


Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app

Agreed no guarantee he gets the right one unless he is there picking them. And agree again if you want it pay for it and you get what you want.
 
and, as for Aquascape, there is One reason I haven't ordered from them: No live arrival guarantee if your tank ph is not within certain parameters- and mine isn't. That's all. They've had a few temptations, but I'm not throwing $$ away if fish were DOA. and not rigging a tank for a couple bags of fish either.
 
MonsterFishKeepers.com