Large Pond Emptied Today... A Few Pleasant Surprises

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This is the earliest that I've "put the pond to bed" since I started running it ten years ago. I attributed it to me being more adventurous this year, in terms of the 'tropical' species I put out there. Not so much the exCichlasoma beani and Australoheros sp. "Red Ceibal'. They are Northern Mexico (Mazatlan area) and Uruguayan (cool winters ... not like ours:cry:) respectively. But I know they can somewhat take the cool. The unknown quantities were the Cichlasoma dimerus from Northern Uruguay (warmer area nearer Brazil), Paraneetroplus breidohri (from tropical Mexico), a striking pair of Andinoacara rivulatus (Green Terrors) and a lone Paraneetroplus hartwegi that had been beat up inside. There were a bunch of other odds and ends, like Flier Sunfish, Sleeper Gobies, what looked to be a small sucker-like fish, and a couple of unknowns (too small to tell when I put them in). The 'dimerus' and the 'breidohri' were just little guys, around 1/2-1" and I wasn't too hopeful that many (if any) would survive, because of the predatory nature of the pond's inhabitants. There were several spawns that I noticed ... two from the GTs, and a couple from the 'Red Ceibals' as well. No fry survived by the way. When I took the pond's temperature this morning, it was just over 18C (64F). I've been running a 300W heater out there continuously the last week or so because of cool nights (5C or ~40F)) and I suspect the water temperature would have been more like 10 to 15C (50-60F) without it. So I filled the 100G stock trough with pond and fresh water to put the larger fish in until I move them inside (probably tomorrow or Tuesday), and a small 20G container for the smaller fish, which I'm bringing in later today. The pleasant surprises ... the 'breidohri' and 'dimerus' did extremely well out there and outgrew their 'indoor' counterparts 2 to 1 (and talk about colorful at 2-3"). All the adults not only survived, but thrived. The cooler temperatures that they were exposed to lately seemed to have no negative effects on their well-being. I was especially impressed with the GT pair. They were 'the king and queen' of the pond. Also the 'beani' are now brutes (eight of them ranging from 6" to 9"). The natives that I put out I didn't hold out much hope for, since inside, they were languishing. But, other than losing one sleeper goby, the rest not only survived but grew substantially. I think they must have been the main predators on the fry in there. Now my only concern is, will I be able to pull these fish through the winter successfully inside? The 'beani' are my greatest challenge since they don't handle stress (and crowding) well. My plan is to keep them cool and feed lightly with a lower protein, more vegetable based food. Well, enough of my ramblings. Here are some pictures I took as I was breaking down the pond this afternoon.

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Your pond is gorgeous. Very nice update on the fish in there. Good luck wintering all the fish.
 
Nice info-update on those fish. Although seemingly a brief time in the pond, it does wonders. They're all colorful little fatties now.
Duane shows the same results from his summer outdoors, all the fish come out popping colors & robust.
Really gives some food for thought about sunshine, and all the flourishing details, that indoor confinement is lacking in.

My fish seem deprived and pasty-looking.. maybe even anemic, now. Ha!
;-)
 
Your pond is gorgeous. Very nice update on the fish in there. Good luck wintering all the fish.

Thanks for the kind words. I'm hoping the information will give others encouragement to try a pond for natives and aquarium fish.

Nice info-update on those fish. Although seemingly a brief time in the pond, it does wonders. They're all colorful little fatties now.
Duane shows the same results from his summer outdoors, all the fish come out popping colors & robust.
Really gives some food for thought about sunshine, and all the flourishing details, that indoor confinement is lacking in.

My fish seem deprived and pasty-looking.. maybe even anemic, now. Ha!
;-)

Yes, I read Duane's postings and like what he's doing with his fish and ponds.:thumbsup:. 'heyGranny', you've just got to get a pond up and running. You could probably keep it going all year ... a dream of mine. I gotta move!!
 
I had no idea that Flier were native to Manitoba that's awesome. I'm a huge native fish fan, being from SK there isn't much here for lakes with sunfish, we have native rock bass and one lake with largemouth and that's it for native sunfish.


EDIT: The small sucker like fish you mentioned appears to be a Lake chubsucker. Erimyzon sucetta.

Guess I was wrong Flier are nowhere close to being native in Manitoba. How'd you manage to get one, they are a beautiful species
 
EDIT: The small sucker like fish you mentioned appears to be a Lake chubsucker. Erimyzon sucetta.
Guess I was wrong Flier are nowhere close to being native in Manitoba. How'd you manage to get one, they are a beautiful species

Thanks for the identification. the Flier is from Florida. I sent you a Pm with a little more info about that situation. We're a little more fortunate when it comes to sunfish being fairly nearby. Just across the Manitoba/Ontario border, there are some lakes that contain a population of Northern Longear and Pumpkinseed, along with Rock Bass and Crappie. There are legality issues in transporting them however.
Jim
 
Nice update, Jim. As we both predicted a few months ago, the GT's have turned out amazing! The Beanis are also very nice and also quite thick :)
 
The fish in that pond are nice. Loving the colour of that GT, making me want to build a pond so I can summer my GT out in the sun.
 
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Yes, I read Duane's postings and like what he's doing with his fish and ponds.:thumbsup:. 'heyGranny', you've just got to get a pond up and running. You could probably keep it going all year ... a dream of mine. I gotta move!!
Putting a pond in would be quite a project here. The ground is hard in our neighborhood with lots of buried rock, and at an elevation of over 4,000 ft, tropical fish couldn't overwinter outside here. There are quite a few creek-fed native ponds around town, though.
 
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