is it wrong to feed fish live food

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Honestly it doesn't bother me at all i just think that if your not willing to provide for a animals needs then maby you shouldn't be getting the animal whatsoever. Its the same debate as putting large fish like snakeheads in 30g tanks why do we not do this? because the fish will get stunted from water quality and die a lot earlier than it should. So if we shouldn't care about a fishes eating requirements then maby we shouldn't care about its housing ones either?

Im all for converting predators from live food to pellets but if the fish wont take them then i do think you should revert back to live food before the fish does starve to death. Its one thing trying to convert from live to prepared but not feeding live to a extent of the animal dying as a result of not eating is another.

And im far from emotional lol just pointing out if aquarists dont care for the species then maby we shouldn't care to the extent of spending $$$ on housing :)
That doesn't mean I can't try it again with same species and use same methods again. Maybe I'll be successful and maybe not. You need to starve them to get them try on new foods. Otherwise you won't know for sure if you don't try. Some predators can be successfully converted to dry foods, others of same species won't touch the dry foods. Perhaps you should rethink of what you did said to me few posts ago for criticizing me for being bad caretaker to the predatory fishes because they got died of starvation while many fish keepers made lot of mistakes that got their fishes killed. Many cichilds got killed by their own mates, does that means they shouldn't have that species? Or what about piranhas being cannibalistic that they ate one of their own, does that means they shouldn't have piranhas?

Some people are so sensitive these days.
 
My leaf fish died as a result of nasty feeders so I wouldn't do it without at least a 4 week quarantine. That being said it was neat to watch and I think a quick death by a predator is much better than the death all those dead feeders you see floating in the store tanks had.
 
Just to mix this up a little bit:

What is the difference between feeding live and feeding dead/prepared (since most 'prepared' foods contain processed fish)?

Is being hunted down by a predatory fish different than being scooped out of the water by a human net, frozen and then processed? Either way a fish is going to die so that an animal higher on the food chain can survive.
 
Just to mix this up a little bit:

What is the difference between feeding live and feeding dead/prepared (since most 'prepared' foods contain processed fish)?

Is being hunted down by a predatory fish different than being scooped out of the water by a human net, frozen and then processed? Either way a fish is going to die so that an animal higher on the food chain can survive.

difference lies in the odds. you have horrible odds in a 120 whilst odds that your going to be netted in trillions of gallons of sea are in your favour to some extent.


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And what does that have to do with feeding your fish?
 
difference lies in the odds. you have horrible odds in a 120 whilst odds that your going to be netted in trillions of gallons of sea are in your favour to some extent.


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Not really if you think about it. Once you have a large system, you'll understand better, but I have fish in my 300 that have been in there for almost a year and the larger fish still cant catch them. They've learned to hide under wood and rocks to the point ive had to pull them over time. Not just a few, lots lol

Id say odds might actuality be better in my tank than a net in the open ocean......

we have "feeders"become pets......we used to have a 2 minute rule for anything that went in the trigger/eel tank and lived past 2 minutes. If thaey made it, they went into the pond. When we left Atlanta that pond had several 10-12"comets that survived the 210 and are living peacefully in that same pond.
 
A lot of the fish that get processed into food are pond/farm/aquaculture raised, just like live feeders sold at the stores. They will meet the same fate if they are born/hatched into that situation.
 
The world is not sunshine and butterflies, it happens in the wild all the time, live animals eat other live animals - same goes for fish. With that being said I personally don't think its wrong.

I don't feed live food, btw. I won't talk against it either though. Fish in the wild eat live food - its natural. The world is a cruel place. If you do feed live then I would qurantine it first. Do I like to watch stuff die, nope, but it's life and it happens.

Feeding feeders to a fish in a fish tank still has the same end result as a fish in a pond catching a smaller fish and eating it.

In an aquaraium setting it may not be necessary and dry/prepared foods can be fed, if that is the case then I would do that. If you have a fish that simply refuses to eat dry/prepared foods then live food it is. In the end fish eat fish in the wild so its not wrong to feed a live fish another live fish.
 
Not really if you think about it. Once you have a large system, you'll understand better, but I have fish in my 300 that have been in there for almost a year and the larger fish still cant catch them. They've learned to hide under wood and rocks to the point ive had to pull them over time. Not just a few, lots lol

Id say odds might actuality be better in my tank than a net in the open ocean......

we have "feeders"become pets......we used to have a 2 minute rule for anything that went in the trigger/eel tank and lived past 2 minutes. If thaey made it, they went into the pond. When we left Atlanta that pond had several 10-12"comets that survived the 210 and are living peacefully in that same pond.
if you go back a couple pages you would see me describing this sort of thing. one day, this sort of thing might replace all live food/ processed fish food: http://biologybiozine.com/burgers-made-in-the-lab/2729
 
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