ID ID ID PLEASE~ YEAH BABY!

[CrenicichlaChina]

THE FIRST ONE IS ABOUT 30cm.





THE SECOND IS ABOUT 42cm.




SOMEBODY HELP ME???

 

[Rocksor]

1) Male Crenicichla Johanna

2) Male Crenicichla Tapajos I

 

[CrenicichlaChina]

Thank you so much!

 

[CrenicichlaChina]

1) Male Crenicichla Johanna

2) Male Crenicichla Tapajos I

hi I wanna know how you recognize the first one as male? I was told the male Johanna has red on the top fins. Is that wrong?

 

[ryans2]

Bottom one looks SICK!

 

[Rocksor]

hi I wanna know how you recognize the first one as male? I was told the male Johanna has red on the top fins. Is that wrong?

Female crenicichlas from the lugubris family have a white stripe in the middle of the top fin. The missing red/orange/pink belly of an adult is also for an adult male in the lugubris family. You'll see the white stripe in their juvenile stage prior to the pink/orange/red belly/

The female crenicichla johanna in the picture below has black - white - red stripes in the top fins; plus a pink belly.

This female crenicichla tapajos is also part of the lugubris family. Notice the black - white -red stripes in the top fin.

 

[CrenicichlaChina]

Female crenicichlas from the lugubris family have a white stripe in the middle of the top fin. The missing red/orange/pink belly of an adult is also for an adult male in the lugubris family. You'll see the white stripe in their juvenile stage prior to the pink/orange/red belly/

The female crenicichla johanna in the picture below has black - white - red stripes in the top fins; plus a pink belly.

This female crenicichla tapajos is also part of the lugubris family. Notice the black - white -red stripes in the top fin.

thanks! You helped a lot!

 

[jiapei]

2nd is also called cobra.
I dont think first one is joanna, but I could confirm it's from lugibris family.

 

[Rocksor]

2nd is also called cobra.
I dont think first one is joanna, but I could confirm it's from lugibris family.

Notice how the nostril is practically touching the upper lip. That's a big sign pointing to johanna variant of pike. Also, there is no spot on the tail, and a faint thick horizontal band going across the pike.

from the expert on this site, post #3

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?335644-Max-Size-What-type&highlight=johanna

98.95% sure its a sp. 'venezuela'. Johanna and venezuela really don't look all that similar. Venezuela will have a more pointed snot, whereas johanna will have a more blunt, rounded snout. Also johannas nostrils are closer to the tip of their snout, almost right above their lip.

Going to be a bruiser, with potential of reaching 16". Generally takes them a while to get that much size on them, but at least expect a 14" fish.

 

[CrenicichlaChina]

2nd is also called cobra.
I dont think first one is joanna, but I could confirm it's from lugibris family.

yes, the 2nd is called cobra in china. That's right.