I've been reading up on the Jelly cats (Cephalosilurus Fowleri, Apurensis, Nigricaudus) Anyone in here got some personal expirience with them? Im talking mainly about Nigricaudus, but if someone had some expirience when the others i'd love to hear it too.. I've heard they have alot of personality.
Curious about the Jelly Cats.
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They are mean and will try to eat tankmates as they grow. If you want to keep them, better keep them in a species tank. I am currently keeping a nigricaudus, and it's now 7" long. It grows fast and eats non-stop. One of my birchir was killed by my jelly while the jelly tried to shallow it and broke its neck. And when my jelly decided to pick on a huge oscar (8") in the same tank I decided to isolate it in another tank. So you may wish to think twice before going for it.
I haven't any experience with Fowl or Nigri but from what I heard Nigri's tend to be more aggressive then Apu and Fowl's tend to be the least aggressive and least out going. Though I should state in advance being less aggressive doesn't necessarily mean less predatory.
So in my opinion the best compromise is the Apu and luckily is the one you're probably most likely to find available. My personal experience is they're pretty outgoing for an ambush predator, tolerating touch, eating from one's hand and generally being visible even with lights on. As far as tankmates if you do try it I would raise them from a young age with their tankmates and make sure that at the start the tankmates are larger top to bottom then the Apu's mouth and length wise at least an inch or two larger the the Apu himself. I have seen a large specimen Nigri on youtube being kept with Petenia Splendida which in my opinion is a great tank mate for the Apu considering their adult size and general swimming strata and peaceful disposition. They're also cool tankmates because they're another large mouthed predator to add to the display that'll be more visible and active, making the tank more appealing in my opinion. In the vid the Petenia look small enough to be eaten but either because the Nigri's well fed or because they've been comm'ed so long he seems to show no interest in them.
Here's a pic of my little guy in post quarantine container so I could make sure he was eating as well as the youtube with the large Nigri and Petenia.
The Petenia show up at about the 2:10 mark.
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So in my opinion the best compromise is the Apu and luckily is the one you're probably most likely to find available. My personal experience is they're pretty outgoing for an ambush predator, tolerating touch, eating from one's hand and generally being visible even with lights on. As far as tankmates if you do try it I would raise them from a young age with their tankmates and make sure that at the start the tankmates are larger top to bottom then the Apu's mouth and length wise at least an inch or two larger the the Apu himself. I have seen a large specimen Nigri on youtube being kept with Petenia Splendida which in my opinion is a great tank mate for the Apu considering their adult size and general swimming strata and peaceful disposition. They're also cool tankmates because they're another large mouthed predator to add to the display that'll be more visible and active, making the tank more appealing in my opinion. In the vid the Petenia look small enough to be eaten but either because the Nigri's well fed or because they've been comm'ed so long he seems to show no interest in them.
Here's a pic of my little guy in post quarantine container so I could make sure he was eating as well as the youtube with the large Nigri and Petenia.
The Petenia show up at about the 2:10 mark.
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My lfs brought a trio in all equal in size. I remember him saying one day there was three the next only two. They ganged up on one and not even being in the tank 24 hours.
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Thanks. The reason i'd I though the nigri would be better, is because, my largest tank right now is 160 x 55 x 60 cm and I've heard the apu grows fast. I'd be able to get a larger tank in 6 months to a year. I've heard the nigri stays smaller, and grows slower, but if the apu wouldn't grow from that tank in a year i'd be happy with that. I'll take look at your tankmate suggestion. Thanks
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So the tank is about 5 foot x 22 inches x 24 inches give or take correct? And is that Length x Width x Height? In either case depending on the purchase size of Apu you should be okay for a year in my opinion. They're not particularly active fish and they seem to grow to about a foot relatively quickly but slow down after that so 22 inches front to back should be alright as well as the 5 foot length would be alright but better would be longer and wider.
Yeh. Ok, thanks, it would have to be in there 6 months to 1 year, as said, then im moving to a house, then tank size wouldnt be a problem. This is just a wild shoot, but i could imagine discus being possible tank mates, due to their high backs. Maybe the jelly cat would just kill the discus, and then eat it.
I chose not to retype what's already out there. I hope this collection of works and pics will do.
I've had 3. Feeding them is lots of fun - highly interactive and action-packed, if you will. They appeared to even recognize the sound of my ripping open a package of food! Mine relish everything fleshy - fish pieces, shrimp, pretty much any sea and aquatic foods. Never tried to wean them onto dry - had no reason to.
The first four articles are by the unsurpassed Wolfgang Ros, a well known and respected expert on these fish:
http://translate.google.com/transla...aszinierend-hemibagrus-wyckii/&langpair=de|en
http://translate.google.com/transla...aszinierend-hemibagrus-wyckii/&langpair=de|en
http://translate.google.com/transla...aszinierend-hemibagrus-wyckii/&langpair=de|en
http://www.planetcatfish.com/shanesworld/shanesworld.php?article_id=220
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=30284&hilit=+cephalosilurus
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33969&hilit=+ross
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=29488&hilit=cephalosilurus&start=80
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...this-GLUTTON-of-a-Catfish!&highlight=wolfgang
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...5-Any-One-Here-Own-a-Cephalosilurus-Apurensis
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...alosilurus-apurensis&highlight=cephalosilurus
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...3278-Bobbing-for-smelt-Begging-for-food/page2
I've had 3. Feeding them is lots of fun - highly interactive and action-packed, if you will. They appeared to even recognize the sound of my ripping open a package of food! Mine relish everything fleshy - fish pieces, shrimp, pretty much any sea and aquatic foods. Never tried to wean them onto dry - had no reason to.
The first four articles are by the unsurpassed Wolfgang Ros, a well known and respected expert on these fish:
http://translate.google.com/transla...aszinierend-hemibagrus-wyckii/&langpair=de|en
http://translate.google.com/transla...aszinierend-hemibagrus-wyckii/&langpair=de|en
http://translate.google.com/transla...aszinierend-hemibagrus-wyckii/&langpair=de|en
http://www.planetcatfish.com/shanesworld/shanesworld.php?article_id=220
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=30284&hilit=+cephalosilurus
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33969&hilit=+ross
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=29488&hilit=cephalosilurus&start=80
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...this-GLUTTON-of-a-Catfish!&highlight=wolfgang
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...5-Any-One-Here-Own-a-Cephalosilurus-Apurensis
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...alosilurus-apurensis&highlight=cephalosilurus
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...3278-Bobbing-for-smelt-Begging-for-food/page2
Sure. The first three links worked out funny. Just look at the "Reports" list on the left. 10th, 11th, and 13th reports are on the three species of the genus in question.