Hey Guys, if this is a Good WC system??

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soo i was wondering if this is a good ideal or not....still thinking.

im about to used a 55gallon barrel and used Prime to kill the bad stuff in it,

soo whenever i wanna do waterchange i can just used the pump in the barrel to pump the water back into my tank??

is it good ideal or noo? if not then explain please. if yes, then iighty ima be using a 100 gallon barrel then.

thanks for your answer and your time checking out my post
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Note: i heard some people said i can jsut let it sit in the water in the barrel for a week to kill the chlorine and i have to used a Air-Stone just to keep it Stagnant? is it true?
 
Chlorine gasses off over time and keeping it for a couple days with an air pump will take care of that. Prime helps with other containment too though so id still use it. I dont really see the need to fill a barrel first, just feel like its an extra step unless you are using RO water but then u wouldnt need prime
 
Aging the water before adding to your tank is always a great idea.

It allows the PH to stabilize, dissolved gasses to dissipate and a number of other positives.


http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?253999-Aged-Water/page2

Couldn't say it much better so here is a quoted
post by DavidW from the thread linked above.

"Anyone using water direct from an urban water supply is playing russian roulette.
All urban water supplies are pressurized and also much colder than your tank. Straight from the tap there will be a surfeit of dissolved CO2 ( and other gasses) and a deficit of dissolved O2, along with a rich dose of chlorine in most cases, chloramine in others and also usually fluoride.
This colder water will go immediately to the bottom of your tank ( convection) and on the way release the CO2. You will often see little bubbles of it on plants or glass or even on the fish's skin. CO2 is also acidic and pH goes up when it gasses out.
Chlorine is unstable in water and will naturally 'gas out' in about 12 hours without any need for conditioners etc.

It would be interesting to watch a dissolved gas meter bouncing around in most of your tanks.
Urban water supplies will occasionally put a 'bullet' of chemicals into the system to manage seasonal microfauna blooms, but they won;t tell you about it.
Adding any water conditioner to the tank directly is imo crazy.
Doing the above means essentially you are putting your ray in the middle of an active chemical reaction involving bounces in temperature, pressure, pH etc.
Even people with Well water are susceptible, athough the chlorine/chloramine issue is not there.
I learned all this the hard way.

I predict that within the next 12 months at least 1 of you here that does not age/condition your water outside the tank will have a major catastrophe.

Folks that use a direct drip constant flow system through prefilters have a much lesser chance of this problem, although not even R/O will remove chloramines if your water company suddenly decides to change its treatment protocols.
If you have chloramines then you have no real choice but to use a conditioner to neutralize it but you really should do this in a tub , even if it is only an hour before you add the water to your tank. I find it contradictory for anyone to recommend mixing simple salt with water before adding it to the tank but no problem to add a noxious chemical like prime etc"
 
I always age and treat my water before doing water changes. I have a barrel with a circulating pump and heater in it. Treat with prime, heat to 78 degrees, and circulate for a couple days. I use the circulating pump to refill tanks after water changes.
 
ahhh thanks guys.

another question: do you guys WC every week or every 2-4month with sump?

and 1 more last question...sorry just wanna make sure... if i start a guppy tank do i hvae to hvae a filter for it?? like cant i just used sponge filter and make it driven it up like a regular filter?? idk if that make sense or not... i tired my best.
 
ahhh thanks guys.

another question: do you guys WC every week or every 2-4month with sump?

and 1 more last question...sorry just wanna make sure... if i start a guppy tank do i hvae to hvae a filter for it?? like cant i just used sponge filter and make it driven it up like a regular filter?? idk if that make sense or not... i tired my best.

If you are asking is a sponge filter ok for guppies, the answer is yes. I have about 11 guppy tanks set up with sponge filters right now.
You need some kind of biofliter on every tank.
Yes, it's possible to have a lightly stocked planted tank and not have a filter, but why risk it.

How often you do water changes depends on the fish you keep and how packed the tank is, but I would recommend 1/week as the minimum. How much water you change also depends on many factors.
Again, it's possible to get by with less often water changes, but not worth it.
 
hmmm. well atm i hvae about 40 plant different kind of plant in the sump. and i only doing 20-30% mosty every 2 weeks since my sump got plant to keep the low nitrate and i only have 3 RBP atm.

and ohh 1 more question? can u actually keep a fish in the tank and make it as the wild??? i saw one of my sister in law brother in law and they seem to be fine for one year and he never WC nor anything and he doesnt got real plant mostly he just add tap water wid no Water condition and noo his tap water is not safe lol. idk how he make his fish tank into the wild one... that rare to see.
 
hmmm. well atm i hvae about 40 plant different kind of plant in the sump. and i only doing 20-30% mosty every 2 weeks since my sump got plant to keep the low nitrate and i only have 3 RBP atm.

and ohh 1 more question? can u actually keep a fish in the tank and make it as the wild??? i saw one of my sister in law brother in law and they seem to be fine for one year and he never WC nor anything and he doesnt got real plant mostly he just add tap water wid no Water condition and noo his tap water is not safe lol. idk how he make his fish tank into the wild one... that rare to see.

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ummm what im trying to said is...damn im bad at grammar lol...still learning :(

can you actually keep a fish in a fish tank as in the wild?? like make them get used too it like it in the wild??
 
ummm what im trying to said is...damn im bad at grammar lol...still learning :(

can you actually keep a fish in a fish tank as in the wild?? like make them get used too it like it in the wild??

Fish can slowly get used to excess nitrates and pollutants. Thus you can hear stories about people that have gone over a year with no water changes. Plants help. But it's not recommended.
 
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