Vieja zonatus and regani

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What would the minimum tank size be for a single specimen either of the following zonatus , synspilum , or regani. I thought zonatus were the maniacs lol

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jaws7777 said:
What would the minimum tank size be for a single specimen either of the following zonatus , synspilum , or regani. I thought zonatus were the maniacs lol

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I've been told the females are smaller than males, still are very personable and are just as colorful as males for most species. It seems most males of the almost all the species of the genus reach 12-14" with females being 10-12". So if you can find a female, I would say a 75 is the minimum. A male probably would look pretty tight in a 75 or 125 since they both are 18" wide, so a 180 would be minimum for it, but it would leave you a lot of room for other stock. My plan after I get my 75 set up in my new house is to have a solo Vieja female wet pet.


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It's not just the length of these species one has to consider, it's also their girth. These are not stream lined fish that can tuck a 1/3 of their body in when swimming in circles. These are large, and very thick fish, that should not be viewed in a "minimum" manner. If the best you can do is the minimum, perhaps you should consider a different genus/species.
 
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And I wouldn't choose Vieja for a wet pet, either. An Amph or Jag might make a better Wet Pet. A big part of tbe attraction of Vieja is their interaction with each other. A lone Zonatus would be cool, but watching it with other Vieja is a lot more fun.


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RD. said:
It's not just the length of these species one has to consider, it's also their girth. These are not stream lined fish that can tuck a 1/3 of their body in when swimming in circles. These are large, and very thick fish, that should not be viewed in a "minimum" manner. If the best you can do is the minimum, perhaps you should consider a different genus/species.
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While I totally agree with your principle, the term "minimum" in this hobby is strictly a matter of option in the vast majority of cases. It's a tank size that most people will agree is the smallest that a specific species can live in, but is still considered acceptable for the fish to grow and thrive in. Of course bigger is better. It always will be. So while I always try to put my fish in a larger than necessary tank, it's good to know what most people consider to be a minimum for the species I'm interested in. I use minimum tank sizes to create boundaries for myself. I do lots of homework on any species before I buy it and because I have a preference for the rare and uncommon species, it's usually homework for the day I get lucky enough to find the species online or in my LFS. If I do find it and I have the minimum acceptable tank size for a member, pair or group of that species, I can go ahead and purchase it because I never buy a fish without having a tank it can grow into. I have been stupid enough at one point in this hobby to be one of those people who just buys a fish and says "I'll buy a tank to upgrade it to when it needs it", but money always is a problem later on and an upgrade wasn't possible. So I just don't do that anymore. Anyways, I think its good to know what a minimum size is so hobbyists can make educated decisions. If you disagree with the minimum acceptable tank size, you should tell us what you think it should be so people can use that information in their decision making process.


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If that is the case we would all have 1000 gallon tanks. Most people think that a 55 gal is sufficient for an oscar i would think 75 is better BUT someone can aske the question of minimum tank size just to get a good idea if where they need to be Maybe I should ask the question differently ....
What size tank would you keep either zonatus, synsipilum, or regani ?

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The term "minimum" in this hobby is strictly a matter of opinion, and unfortunately often times that opinion is coming from either someone who has never kept one of these fish long term (as in several years), someone who has never kept them at all, or some teenage kid that thinks he has it all figured out after keeping MONSTER cichlids for 2 or 3 years.

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Full grown viejas and oscars in a 75 is akin something like this
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The Oscar in a 75 gallon was only an example my Oscar is in a hundred fifty gallon with a couple of small tank mates that being said I'm not understanding why this is becoming so difficult minimum tank requirements are spoken of all the time on this website so again I will ask anyone that has kept the species mentioned would they care to elaborate on what they feel would be suitable tank size requirements

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