live feeder preperation, what do you do?

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I culture my own red wiggler worms (also known as composting worms). Super easy and a single rubbermaid in my garage supports feeding a 50+ tank fishroom a couple of times per week.

Haven't bought live or frozen foods in years and have yet to find a fish that doesn't want to eat them...

Matt

Matt, have you kept pickerel? I do really want mine to take worms, and I have tried on several occassions, they dont even bat an eye at them. crickets, prepped foods, they will zone in on, but worms they don't even give the time of day. My current pickerel, speedy, will target anything in the water (taking it, different story) but he just wont even look at worms.
 
I haven't kept pickerel - mostly cichlids (including straight-from-the-wild pikes and other predators).

Red Wigglers get pretty good-sized (say 4" for adults) - my big Madagascar dambas (my largest fish currently at over 1 foot) tear them up. The good thing about a culture is that a handful of worms will have little ones up to adults.

Matt

Matt, have you kept pickerel? I do really want mine to take worms, and I have tried on several occassions, they dont even bat an eye at them. crickets, prepped foods, they will zone in on, but worms they don't even give the time of day. My current pickerel, speedy, will target anything in the water (taking it, different story) but he just wont even look at worms.
 
Commercial farms raise various pike, musky, hybrid crosses (tiger musky) on pellets, but I guess the trick is to start them young. Click on "Full-Text" http://www.researchgate.net/publica..._lucius_L.)_on_pellet_at_artificial_condition

Compost worms (red worms) are too small for all but the smallest of pickerel. Once the worms hit the bottom a pickerel will ignore them.

pellet training is possible for them, I never meant to imply they CANNOT be trained, but its an uphill battle for something I think has alternatives thats all.
 
I don't have any fish that are on feeder fish now but very soon I'm going to have a few and when I do I'll just take some less attractive or genetically weak fry from my guppy fry tank and use them. I breed them myself so I know they're not diseased.
 
This is an interesting topic. I don't have preds, but how about cooking the feeders? It works for people, it'll work for fish... just dump them in some boiling water ala lobster. Yeah, maybe not as fun as watching them get chased, but would be clean.
 
This is an interesting topic. I don't have preds, but how about cooking the feeders? It works for people, it'll work for fish... just dump them in some boiling water ala lobster. Yeah, maybe not as fun as watching them get chased, but would be clean.

I actually thought about this while I was typing the originial question haha, it would work, but its up to you to get your preds on dead prepped food, i know for a fact mine arent taking a boiled minnow without me jigging it around the tank haha. it would most definitely sterilize the feeder however. If you cant kill something at 200+ degrees, good luck killing it haha.
 
I don't have any fish that are on feeder fish now but very soon I'm going to have a few and when I do I'll just take some less attractive or genetically weak fry from my guppy fry tank and use them. I breed them myself so I know they're not diseased.

dive, Im gonna send a PM about your guppy setup, I have a spare 20L I want to breed guppies in. if you have a good system in place I'd like a few pointers. I know they aren't tough to breed but I would like the details of the way youre doing it.
 
dive, Im gonna send a PM about your guppy setup, I have a spare 20L I want to breed guppies in. if you have a good system in place I'd like a few pointers. I know they aren't tough to breed but I would like the details of the way youre doing it.

Got it and replied but tell me if you got it since my inbox hasn't been replying to certain PMs lately. I actually just got a spawn when I got home :)
 
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