Geophagus Brasiliensis Tankmates?

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They get pretty big, so ultimately you could probably only manage a pair or a single adult specimen in a 4x2x2 tank. Most problems with brasiliensis arise because of conspecific aggression, and crowding will exacerbate that. A small group initially would likely lead to one or more pairs forming, which in turn would change the aggression dynamic for (all) others in the tank. It's also worth noting that people vary widely in their experience with aggression in brasiliensis. Some report them to be unrelenting aggressors, and others find them to be quite passive. The species is really a species-complex, so that may factor into some of the variation. Plus, cichlids in general vary in personality and aggressiveness. If you are keen on having a group all you can do is try, and be willing to rehome if things get ugly.
 
They get pretty big, so ultimately you could probably only manage a pair or a single adult specimen in a 4x2x2 tank. Most problems with brasiliensis arise because of conspecific aggression, and crowding will exacerbate that. A small group initially would likely lead to one or more pairs forming, which in turn would change the aggression dynamic for (all) others in the tank. It's also worth noting that people vary widely in their experience with aggression in brasiliensis. Some report them to be unrelenting aggressors, and others find them to be quite passive. The species is really a species-complex, so that may factor into some of the variation. Plus, cichlids in general vary in personality and aggressiveness. If you are keen on having a group all you can do is try, and be willing to rehome if things get ugly.

I see. The more I consider it, it might be worth looking at getting a different species and rehoming the ones I have. I wanted Winemilleri, or Red Head Tapajos


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Since braziliensus is from southern Brazil, although constant temp will not hurt them, normal temps would occasionally be a tad lower than the more Amazonian species.
I find braziliensus are less aggressive if kept at temps of high 60sF-to low 70sF.
Pairs I had would spawn in my ponds, where temps were only in the 60sF.
A pair of G iporangensis (braziliensis complex) spawned last year in an unheated room temp tank (@68'F).
 
Since braziliensus is from southern Brazil, although constant temp will not hurt them, normal temps would occasionally be a tad lower than the more Amazonian species.
I find braziliensus are less aggressive if kept at temps of high 60sF-to low 70sF.
Pairs I had would spawn in my ponds, where temps were only in the 60sF.
A pair of G iporangensis (braziliensis complex) spawned last year in an unheated room temp tank (@68'F).

I see. With the Royal Plecos I have, I'd prefer to keep the tank 76-80, so, it looks like that range is out of the option. I have a friend with a lot of tanks, and he was looking for some geos, he might be able to take them from me. The LFS I work at also just got some Geophagus Norte in (still on quarantine), and I might look at getting some of them instead, as they stay around 7 inches and seem to do well in groups, as well as not being aggressive. Ill be doing a lot of research though.


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The LFS I work at also just got some Geophagus Norte in (still on quarantine), and I might look at getting some of them instead, as they stay around 7 inches and seem to do well in groups, as well as not being aggressive. Ill be doing a lot of research though.

The "Norte" you refer to are Gymnogeophagus, which are from Uruguay. These fish do best with a winter cool down period (low 60s). Having them in a tank with Royal Plecos would not be a good idea because the plecos requires consistently higher temperatures.
 
I agree with fug202
The "Norte" you refer to are Gymnogeophagus, which are from Uruguay. These fish do best with a winter cool down period (low 60s). Having them in a tank with Royal Plecos would not be a good idea because the plecos requires consistently higher temperatures.
 
The "Norte" you refer to are Gymnogeophagus, which are from Uruguay. These fish do best with a winter cool down period (low 60s). Having them in a tank with Royal Plecos would not be a good idea because the plecos requires consistently higher temperatures.

They were labeled as Geophagus, not gymnogeophagus at the store. I guess I've got more research to do!


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I'm not surprised they were labeled Geo, most average Pet/LFSs are usually clueless, and that is a very reasonable mistake.
I've also seen Acarichthys heckelli, and balzani labeled as Geophagus, and plenty of Central Americans labeled as mixed Africans, or even as Oscars.
Unless absolutely sure about something, I never trust a LFS to accurate about anything but the bread and butter, community species .
 
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