Silicone for large tank rebuild?

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So I am going to recommend a bit of a different route with this, and some people are going to disagree and get pissy with me which is fine, it happens every time the silicone discussion comes up.

GE I and II that you can buy at Home Depot and Lowe's is a sealant, not an adhesive. The adhesive properties of it are so low that they are not even published. It is the same as silicone that you would find in a fish store. Crap silicone not designed to hold a tank together, they just repackage it so it says aquarium silicone on it. If you read the fine print it will still say not to use it for building a tank.

Now here is where everyone chimes in, but my tank/my friends tank/whatever tank was rebuilt using this and it has been holding xxx amount of time! Better your house than mine. I've seen enough tanks built using GE I and II you couldn't pay me to set up a tank built out of the stuff. It may be holding for now but it really is not the best for the job.

The silicone ALL of the big tank builders are using is Momentive RTV 103 or 108 depending on if you want black or clear. With a fish tank you want and need an industrial grade adhesive, not something that is designed to keep water out of cracks. It is a bit more expensive, about $12 a tube, but when you are spending hundreds or more on a tank what is a few bucks more to do it right? Grainger has the RTV silicone on their website.

Also, 36-48 hours for a cure time is not enough. The silicone may look fry on the outside after that time but a 1/4" silicone bead needs 2 weeks to fully cure. Silicone dries from the outside in. Filling the tank too soon can cause you a lot of issues.

I'm sure someone will argue with me saying it is unnecessary and that a lesser silicone will hold. And will it? Quite possibly. Is it the best or safest option? Not by a long shot.
 
you get no argument from me fishguy, good info. Doing a re-seal is a big deference from a re-build. I have never used the product you are recommending, but next re-seal I will def give it a go, only a fool would say using a better product is not better than using any ol product.
 
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So I am going to recommend a bit of a different route with this, and some people are going to disagree and get pissy with me which is fine, it happens every time the silicone discussion comes up.

GE I and II that you can buy at Home Depot and Lowe's is a sealant, not an adhesive. The adhesive properties of it are so low that they are not even published. It is the same as silicone that you would find in a fish store. Crap silicone not designed to hold a tank together, they just repackage it so it says aquarium silicone on it. If you read the fine print it will still say not to use it for building a tank.

Now here is where everyone chimes in, but my tank/my friends tank/whatever tank was rebuilt using this and it has been holding xxx amount of time! Better your house than mine. I've seen enough tanks built using GE I and II you couldn't pay me to set up a tank built out of the stuff. It may be holding for now but it really is not the best for the job.

The silicone ALL of the big tank builders are using is Momentive RTV 103 or 108 depending on if you want black or clear. With a fish tank you want and need an industrial grade adhesive, not something that is designed to keep water out of cracks. It is a bit more expensive, about $12 a tube, but when you are spending hundreds or more on a tank what is a few bucks more to do it right? Grainger has the RTV silicone on their website.

Also, 36-48 hours for a cure time is not enough. The silicone may look fry on the outside after that time but a 1/4" silicone bead needs 2 weeks to fully cure. Silicone dries from the outside in. Filling the tank too soon can cause you a lot of issues.

I'm sure someone will argue with me saying it is unnecessary and that a lesser silicone will hold. And will it? Quite possibly. Is it the best or safest option? Not by a long shot.



Thank you for the advice. I have done an entire reseal on a 45 gallon corner tank. I don't know what kind of silicone I used. It was some my boyfriend had for his job when he did cable for charter and it was aquarium safe so I resealed it. The silicone was all beat up. I made sure I cleaned the glass really good and I actually did the silicone thicker than it was originally just because I went for making sure the tank lasted over just the appearance. But with the corner tank the thicker silicone actually looked really stupid. I am tedious with my work that I do and I will make sure there is no funny business going on. Do you think it would be okay to attach the glass with rtv 108 and reseal with dap 100%? I already have the dap? If not I will return it and get something else. I saw the rtv but I will have to order it online. I could not find any at any hardware store around where I live.
 
I used scs1200 based on a recent recommendation on a 300g. Let cure for a week although is says 48 hours


Don't worry it will have plenty of time to cure. I don't have anything for the tank. After the repairs I will still have to save up for large enough filtration, substrate, rocks, everything. I also am having to get more glass for the sliding glass tops I am going to build too so it will have well over a week to cure. I let my 45 gal cure for a week and a half after its reseal just because I didn't trust it was dry all the way. I'm always cautious with that much water. And this is WAY more!
 
And I am not just resealing this tank. I am also having to take off a whole side and put a whole new side in. I know I should be able to use whatever silicone as long as it has no extra chemicals to reseal it. What I'm worried about is the tank being held together more so than the reseal. I've resealed. But for the 6ft long and 2ft tall piece of glass I'm attaching I would like to make sure the silicone will hold it. I'd also like to know my braces are held on good when I put them in too. We don't want that large of a tank bowing and cracking. I would die!
 
So I am going to recommend a bit of a different route with this, and some people are going to disagree and get pissy with me which is fine, it happens every time the silicone discussion comes up.

GE I and II that you can buy at Home Depot and Lowe's is a sealant, not an adhesive. The adhesive properties of it are so low that they are not even published. It is the same as silicone that you would find in a fish store. Crap silicone not designed to hold a tank together, they just repackage it so it says aquarium silicone on it. If you read the fine print it will still say not to use it for building a tank.

Now here is where everyone chimes in, but my tank/my friends tank/whatever tank was rebuilt using this and it has been holding xxx amount of time! Better your house than mine. I've seen enough tanks built using GE I and II you couldn't pay me to set up a tank built out of the stuff. It may be holding for now but it really is not the best for the job.

The silicone ALL of the big tank builders are using is Momentive RTV 103 or 108 depending on if you want black or clear. With a fish tank you want and need an industrial grade adhesive, not something that is designed to keep water out of cracks. It is a bit more expensive, about $12 a tube, but when you are spending hundreds or more on a tank what is a few bucks more to do it right? Grainger has the RTV silicone on their website.

Also, 36-48 hours for a cure time is not enough. The silicone may look fry on the outside after that time but a 1/4" silicone bead needs 2 weeks to fully cure. Silicone dries from the outside in. Filling the tank too soon can cause you a lot of issues.

I'm sure someone will argue with me saying it is unnecessary and that a lesser silicone will hold. And will it? Quite possibly. Is it the best or safest option? Not by a long shot.


Oh yeah, I said rtv 108 in my last reply to this because I do want clear, not black. Simply because the rest of the tank is siliconed in clear. Also, I want the bracing I am having to out on the tank to be held on with good clear silicone so I might as well use the same good stuff. Right now I'm working on the stand to the tank so I have some time. I'll probably order the glass in about 3 weeks or so.
 
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