hemichromis frempongi vs fasciatus?

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Anyone have experience in these? after years of searching i found a place in canada that has frempongi I really wanted red elongatus but beggers can't be choosers right? SO i have 4 now. Was wondering how do these 3 differ? IN temperament and in redness? Any ideas which becomes the most red? Which the most aggressive? I have them in a 120 6 foot long right now with a red devil tilapia butt Jaguar all small for now I will sell or move the other brutes eventually. I was hoping to breed the frempongi and had them vented. No one i know of in canada breeds them that i have ever seeen. They have always told me they are wayy too aggressive.
 
I've never had frempongi but I've had fasciatus....they are dovii level aggressive and oz for oz probably the nastiest cichlid out there. I'm in Canada also, where did you find these? I think the Frempongi might be more attractive but I've only seem pictures. Go to youtube...theres a guy on there (and on here) who has both and has a hybrid monster.
 
I wanted englongatus i wanted the reddest one of all i also want hemi guinea 2 i do not think ill ever get that since it took me years to get this

I got it from a place called fenatics a local cichild guy in the t dot people come all over to get stuff from him I have been going to him since last year i dont think he has ever sold them before and i have been telling him to try them a lot i didnt think he would give it a shot but he actually did wow no one carries these

yeah fasiatus doesn't look nice and is abnormally aggressive

its the red elogatus that seem to look really nice
 
After doing more research these things are much worse than dovie well at least the fasitus are! A breeder had them in a 500 gallon breeding and they killed all the adult grammodes sp? I dont know much about the mini dovie but heard they were nasty as hell. The pair was not even adult still killed them all.


THey seem just damn evil if evil exists within fish they are tossing convicts around like nothing and slamming that birchir i can't believe the person allowed that even??? I have seen dovii fight for their fry and got wooped by a single monster midas. BUt birchir have very very strong thick protection. I saw a bird catch one and smash it all over the place and could not break that thick skin. Very strong skin they have. But that jewel fish was just nailing it as well.
 
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but to be honest unlike everyone else here i dont see convicts as that tough i had to rescue a male in my 150 gallon grow out tank being picked on by jags tilapia and devil all smaller than he is then i healed his wounds in a dr tank and just gave him up to a more peaceful tank. Not the first time i had to do it with convicts. Jewels the reg neon jewels when healthy and in full power and aggression seem to be a lot stronger than convicts ounce for ounce i had one kill a salvani that kept attacking it. They are not aggressive fish but once pissed they really can fight. Convicts arent wimps i just dont find them special, id compare them to texas and jd. THey are aggressive but not very aggressive beastly like jags, tilapia, devils, red terrors.
 
I recently picked up 2 fasciatus. I have kept many CA and SA cichlids including several large dovii pairs and 1 large umbee pair. I have been keeping cichlids like oscars, jack dempseys, jags, buttikoferi since I was about 10 years old. I am 35 now. I can honestly say these fish are on a whole different level. These 2 small fish absolutely terrorized my entire 125 upon entry. There was almost no acclimation period. They basically hit the water fighting each other and everything else. Lucky for me I had a 10 inch festae pair that were able to keep some of the peace. Although even they appeared stressed. The only saving grace on these fish is they max out about 10-11 inches. If they reached the 18-20 inch range, I don't know if they would be keepable for most hobbiests.
 
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