What Filtration set ups for Large Stingray Tanks?

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Huge moving bed filter, huge sump, huge UV, rediculous amount of media and air......
Hit the nail on the head.
on my 300 gallon, filtration is: (4 Marbled Motoros, 1 Black arowana) (2230 gph flow)
1 fx6
55 gallon sump - 20 gallons bucket worth of bioballs and pot scrubbers, and 2 liters of Seachem Pond Matrix and 2 liters of ammochips just for kicks. more media going to be added
1 eheim 2217 soon to be removed.

on my 180: (3 motoros) 600 gph flow ( will increase to 1500 soon)
1 fx6
55 gallon sump - 60 liters of K1 kaldness

on my 150: (2 Black Diamond Rays) (1500 Gph flow)
DIY sump from sterelite tub and plastic drawer - 10 gallon buckets worth of Bioballs and pot scrubbers, 2 liters of Seachem Pond Matrix, and pothos. (pothos not doing crap. not growing well.)

just keep in mind Seachem pond matrix is rated at 300 gallons for 2 liters. I dont believe it so i always go over.
Each 5 gallon bucket of bioballs and pot scrubbers is rated at 100 gallons for ever 5 gallon bucket. OR 1 ray = 5 gallon bucket of bioballs.
i made the mistake in the past to go by the instructions on the label and rushing getting rays, but learned my lesson and listened to what Jayd and many other ray keepers here told me. always go over. and never rush it. filtration have never been so steady (except my fx6s they keep dying on me.) since i did what they told me. now im just saving money and planning on a drip system to keep nitrates down!
 
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Hit the nail on the head.
on my 300 gallon, filtration is: (4 Marbled Motoros, 1 Black arowana) (2230 gph flow)
1 fx6
55 gallon sump - 20 gallons bucket worth of bioballs and pot scrubbers, and 2 liters of Seachem Pond Matrix and 2 liters of ammochips just for kicks. more media going to be added
1 eheim 2217 soon to be removed.

on my 180: (3 motoros) 600 gph flow ( will increase to 1500 soon)
1 fx6
55 gallon sump - 60 liters of K1 kaldness

on my 150: (2 Black Diamond Rays) (1500 Gph flow)
DIY sump from sterelite tub and plastic drawer - 10 gallon buckets worth of Bioballs and pot scrubbers, 2 liters of Seachem Pond Matrix, and pothos. (pothos not doing crap. not growing well.)

just keep in mind Seachem pond matrix is rated at 300 gallons for 2 liters. I dont believe it so i always go over.
Each 5 gallon bucket of bioballs and pot scrubbers is rated at 100 gallons for ever 5 gallon bucket. OR 1 ray = 5 gallon bucket of bioballs.
i made the mistake in the past to go by the instructions on the label and rushing getting rays, but learned my lesson and listened to what Jayd and many other ray keepers here told me. always go over. and never rush it. filtration have never been so steady (except my fx6s they keep dying on me.) since i did what they told me. now im just saving money and planning on a drip system to keep nitrates down!
Hit the nail on the head.
on my 300 gallon, filtration is: (4 Marbled Motoros, 1 Black arowana) (2230 gph flow)
1 fx6
55 gallon sump - 20 gallons bucket worth of bioballs and pot scrubbers, and 2 liters of Seachem Pond Matrix and 2 liters of ammochips just for kicks. more media going to be added
1 eheim 2217 soon to be removed.

on my 180: (3 motoros) 600 gph flow ( will increase to 1500 soon)
1 fx6
55 gallon sump - 60 liters of K1 kaldness

on my 150: (2 Black Diamond Rays) (1500 Gph flow)
DIY sump from sterelite tub and plastic drawer - 10 gallon buckets worth of Bioballs and pot scrubbers, 2 liters of Seachem Pond Matrix, and pothos. (pothos not doing crap. not growing well.)

just keep in mind Seachem pond matrix is rated at 300 gallons for 2 liters. I dont believe it so i always go over.
Each 5 gallon bucket of bioballs and pot scrubbers is rated at 100 gallons for ever 5 gallon bucket. OR 1 ray = 5 gallon bucket of bioballs.
i made the mistake in the past to go by the instructions on the label and rushing getting rays, but learned my lesson and listened to what Jayd and many other ray keepers here told me. always go over. and never rush it. filtration have never been so steady (except my fx6s they keep dying on me.) since i did what they told me. now im just saving money and planning on a drip system to keep nitrates down!

What's your foot print on the 180 and 150? I wanted a pair of female and male in my 200 gallons but the females get 3 foot big. Are the tanks a grow out tank?
 
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What's your foot print on the 180 and 150? I wanted a pair of female and male in my 200 gallons but the females get 3 foot big. Are the tanks a grow out tank?
The 180 is a standard footprint 6x2x2 and the 150 is a 5x2x2. They are grow outs. the 300 maybe permanent for the marbles as they dont grow as big as normal motoros but Definitely growouts. I have my 150 in my middle floor next to my kitchen dining table where i eat. i see these fish more than all my fish because they require the most care for me (since they are the most expensive). I am in the very long process of training them to eat shrimp. still have no luck.
I am purchasing a table saw from homedepot to build a plywood tank. possibly the ridgid one with the stand 400$, and i have like 200$ worth of credit. going to build a 8x4x2.5 tank for their final homes. probably will only house the black diamonds. motoros not sure what i will do with them but will upgrade tanks when needed.
 
I used "old school" methods for years..... Worked fine for a while back when my hobby "sickness" was just an average "hobby". A few tanks, some rays, few more rays then a pond.

Guess what? You get to a point where "old school" isn't enough.....

How do I know? I have a tank that easily makes 3lbs of food disappear, and this is with just 1 female eating for her pups......

I've designed my system to need several failures before anything bad happens, I used multiple means of mechanical filtration to make my socks last and don't have to worry about my mechanical overflowing into clean bio like I did with pads and poly fill. I use several means of bio, submerged, wet/dry and several moving beds on the same system.

What works for some might not work for all of us.......
 
I used "old school" methods for years..... Worked fine for a while back when my hobby "sickness" was just an average "hobby". A few tanks, some rays, few more rays then a pond.

Guess what? You get to a point where "old school" isn't enough.....

How do I know? I have a tank that easily makes 3lbs of food disappear, and this is with just 1 female eating for her pups......

I've designed my system to need several failures before anything bad happens, I used multiple means of mechanical filtration to make my socks last and don't have to worry about my mechanical overflowing into clean bio like I did with pads and poly fill. I use several means of bio, submerged, wet/dry and several moving beds on the same system.

What works for some might not work for all of us.......

Holy cow thats a lot of bio load! Any pics of your setup? I might be old school but this old dog can learn new tricks. I still use sponge filters which seems like its almost dead these days in my smaller tanks.
 
Holy cow thats a lot of bio load! Any pics of your setup? I might be old school but this old dog can learn new tricks. I still use sponge filters which seems like its almost dead these days in my smaller tanks.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/catching-ray-poo-without-media-yup.572435/

There's a link to my first stage of mechanical filtration.....

From the (2) 55 gallon RFSs the water goes to a 55 gallon acrylic tank housing (4) 7x16 socks, from there half the water goes into the 90 gallon K1/chip reactor, the other half goes to the moving bed wet/dries - these are a pair of 1x2 acrylic towers 3' tall - bottom foot is submerged with K1/chips in the bottom, top 2' is bio balls in a conventional wet/dry configuration - water dumps in above the moving bed to help boil it, an auxillary pump feeds the wet/dry poertions of these filters. These are sitting in a 300 gallon rubbermaid tub, 3 dart return pumps are used to return water to a 180 gallon tank (that houses A-hole male rays and an angry Tiger fish) and the 750 gallon display tank, but not before running through 220 watts of level 2 sterilization......

This system is designed to easily handle 5lb feedings....

Pics would probably make this a lot less confusing huh?
 
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