Hilter ? Really if that is the extent you need to go to feel your on the correct side of this then so be it.
Interesting about the plants i didnt know that.
True about the wolves and dogs . But for the two examples you have come up 20 can be stated for humans.
Nothing wrong with how you feel no need to try and prove it to me or anyone else but questioning what reality i live in because i value humans lives over animals is a stretch at best.
Agree completely with
Wailua Boy
if the person were a threat to society i would feel different
As far as my feeling right, your question had nothing to do with my statements in the post you quoted, so has nothing to do with a question of sapience being a human specific trait.
you're kidding, right? I ask for specifics and you narrow it down to billions of people and an innumerable amount of animals and you want to give me a hard time for using the first thing that pops into my head?
Try these on for size then.
I'm walking through the woods and come to a river where across the way I see a man and a dog. The dog is trying to climb out of the river, the man keeps kicking him back in. On the last kick the man punts the dog out into the current where he's swept away from the shore. Coincidently his last kick threw him off balance and he falls into the river hitting his head on a rock. Dazed from the blow he too is swept away by the current. The dogs struggles slow his pace while the mans woozy struggles barely keep him above water so they both pass by me at the same time allowing me to only grab one.
I grab the dog leaving the POS human to drown. I feel no guilt.
I'm walking through the woods and come to a river where across the way I see a man and a dog. The dog is trying to climb out of the river, The man, attempting to rescue his dog, manages to heave his dog onto the bank but slips and falls into the river. The dog, seeing it's human in danger throws itself back into the river in an attempt to help him.
In this scenario, I would probably try to rescue the human, but that to is dependent on other factors. If I think I can actually perform the rescue, if he yells save my dog (after all, he was willing to risk his life for the dog in the first place, who am I to disallow his life choices?). I would feel guilty either way, though glad I was able to save a life.
Or we can go back in the thread a bit...
According to a 1983 investigation by Canadian Broadcasting Corporation producer Brian Vallee, the lemming scenes were faked. The lemmings supposedly committing mass suicide by leaping into the ocean were actually thrown off a cliff by the Disney filmmakers. The epic "lemming migration" was staged using careful editing, tight camera angles and a few dozen lemmings running on snow covered lazy-Susan style turntable.
These SFBs killed animals for no reason greater than making a movie. I would happily go back in time and shove them off a cliff to prevent them from doing it to the lemmings.
Interesting how I ask for specifics and you supply none, but I make a general statement to another person and you take it as a specific directed towards you.
