Best foods for colour??

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Hi all,

Just wondering what your advice is on the best foods for bringing out the colour of our cichlids. I recently picked up a baby RTM, and his colour is pretty awesome so far. I want to continue to nurture him so it gets better and better!

The LFS employee told me omega one colour pellets are the best thing for them. I was wondering if there are any frozen or more natural foods that are good too. He is reluctantly accepting these pellets, but he really loves bloodworms. I am going to assume he will love frozen brine, etc.

Let me know what you think!

Here are some more pics of the little guy that I managed to snap when I coaxed him out of hiding with some bloodworms.

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Congrats on your new buy !!! He looks great !
Color on your fish is a combination of multiple factors.
1) Gene (Lineage)
2) Water parameters and water changing schedules
3) Food
4) Surroundings he is in.
5) When around a potential mate

Specifically answering on your query on food.
Foods rich in Carotene ( for red color) and Spirulina works best.
You need to vary the diet with pellets , blood worms , meal worms and other alternatives available.
Last ...feed optimally " A hungry fish is a healthy fish "
 
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Omega one is a decent pellet. He should be fine on that.
 
Feed primarily for good health, keep your water clean, and keep your fish from being stressed and the color will be there (assuming decent genetics as mentioned above).

With a nutritionally sound pellet there's no compelling nutritional need to vary the diet, because a good pellet would be nutritionally complete due to the variety of nutrients and ingredients already in the pellet. People sometimes confuse sufficient and balanced quantities of the various important nutrients as meaning a variety of products, but one doesn't always equal the other. Doesn't mean you can't add treats or use some variety if that's your preference, just means it's not required if your staple food is a balanced food.

Feed mostly mealworms and/or bloodworms or something similar and then you would want to vary the diet-- because these foods are nutritionally limited and incomplete. I've used mealworms in the past to get a fish started eating that was refusing to eat. I've found that freeze dried bloodworms seem to encourage some SA species to spawn more often. So, it's not that I'm against those foods, but they won't do much for color compared to a quality pellet, or compared to krill, some types of shrimp, some types of algae, etc.

As far as carotene relationship with color, some people have simplistic ideas about all of that. For one thing, beta carotene is only one of a fairly large family of pigmented nutrients of varying colors (carotenoids) that can be further broken down into sub-families, and beta carotene is certainly not the only important one, and not necessarily the most important for fish health or fish color.

For another, it's not as simple as red/orange nutrients in the food equals red/orange fish or since spirulina is blue-green it's mainly good for blue fish. Spirulina actually has quite a buffet of carotenoids, of colors that include brown, more than one yellow, more than one red/orange, etc. In other words, it's not as simple as carotene is red/orange, so it's good for red/orange fish and spirulina is blue green, so it's good for blue fish. What it is about is overall health and nutrition. You could overload a fish on synthetic beta carotene as part of an otherwise poor and unbalanced diet and get a very red or orange-- and unhealthy-- fish.

Pigmented nutrients can directly color the animal, the red/pink in salmon comes largely from astaxanthin; in fact, probably most red/pink aquatic organisms are rich in astaxanthin. But in some fish or invertabrates, astaxanthin can produce or enhance blue or purple, depends how it's processed nutritionally and how it's bound to other proteins in shells, feathers, scales, etc. And for the most part it's overall good nutrition (and good water) and the health benefits of more than one carotenoid that helps your fish color up and look healthy.
 
Wow neutrino, thank you. That is an incredibly thorough response. Really great stuff, thanks again!!

Vinod and Ehh, totally makes sense as well!! I think I have to keep up with the regular water changes, make sure the filter is doing its job well and make sure little buddy has enough hiding spots to feel comfortable.
 
Feed primarily for good health, keep your water clean, and keep your fish from being stressed and the color will be there (assuming decent genetics as mentioned above).

With a nutritionally sound pellet there's no compelling nutritional need to vary the diet, because a good pellet would be nutritionally complete due to the variety of nutrients and ingredients already in the pellet. People sometimes confuse sufficient and balanced quantities of the various important nutrients as meaning a variety of products, but one doesn't always equal the other. Doesn't mean you can't add treats or use some variety if that's your preference, just means it's not required if your staple food is a balanced food.

Feed mostly mealworms and/or bloodworms or something similar and then you would want to vary the diet-- because these foods are nutritionally limited and incomplete. I've used mealworms in the past to get a fish started eating that was refusing to eat. I've found that freeze dried bloodworms seem to encourage some SA species to spawn more often. So, it's not that I'm against those foods, but they won't do much for color compared to a quality pellet, or compared to krill, some types of shrimp, some types of algae, etc.

As far as carotene relationship with color, some people have simplistic ideas about all of that. For one thing, beta carotene is only one of a fairly large family of pigmented nutrients of varying colors (carotenoids) that can be further broken down into sub-families, and beta carotene is certainly not the only important one, and not necessarily the most important for fish health or fish color.

For another, it's not as simple as red/orange nutrients in the food equals red/orange fish or since spirulina is blue-green it's mainly good for blue fish. Spirulina actually has quite a buffet of carotenoids, of colors that include brown, more than one yellow, more than one red/orange, etc. In other words, it's not as simple as carotene is red/orange, so it's good for red/orange fish and spirulina is blue green, so it's good for blue fish. What it is about is overall health and nutrition. You could overload a fish on synthetic beta carotene as part of an otherwise poor and unbalanced diet and get a very red or orange-- and unhealthy-- fish.

Pigmented nutrients can directly color the animal, the red/pink in salmon comes largely from astaxanthin; in fact, probably most red/pink aquatic organisms are rich in astaxanthin. But in some fish or invertabrates, astaxanthin can produce or enhance blue or purple, depends how it's processed nutritionally and how it's bound to other proteins in shells, feathers, scales, etc. And for the most part it's overall good nutrition (and good water) and the health benefits of more than one carotenoid that helps your fish color up and look healthy.
Thanks for the great info
 
Really nice photos man, it doesn't look like color much of a problem for this guy!

Thank you! Really glad I got this camera. Quality is so much better than my old camera or phone.

I think he has great genetic potential for sure so I wanted to make sure I took care of the nurture part.
 
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