you haven't been listening to me, have you, Bud?
People may just want to pick a different state for their vacations. Gators are not going anywhere in FL. They're here to stay.
Alligator drags Toddler in water at Disney Resort
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People may just want to pick a different state for their vacations. Gators are not going anywhere in FL. They're here to stay.
Sorry, I didn't quite have my coffee yet when I posted this. Allow me to explain, as stated a fence without removing the gators from a single pond will end up in starvation for the gators and PETA and animal rights would be all over it. In the water, on the bank, it doesn't matter - several gators can't be restricted to a few acres of water and expected to survive. They COULD be relocated, however as stated, there is no guarantee they wouldn't return via interconnected waterways unless everything was blocked off - even THEN, digging under the fence would still be very possible as this is how they aestivate, spending their winters in "gator holes" to shield themselves from the cold.
Let's consider a few things -
1.) of the 2,000 Crocodile attacks every year in Africa and Australia whose fault is it? Regardless where it takes place, these things are EVERYWHERE except the desert and savannahs. At least SOME attacks had to have happened on private property.
2.) The number #1 animal in the world that kills more people than anything else, the Mosquito with the death toll numbering as high as 250,000 is much more of a threat, and they are found everywhere in the world except Antarctica. If you are at any resort or private property anywhere, you run a risk of catching Mosquito-born/transmitted disease. How is this different? If you get bit by a Mosquito and contract malaria in a resort in the Amazon, does it mean that it's the resort's fault and they should be sued?
Same could be said for getting Lyme Disease from a tick that bit you while you were on a Mountain vacation while renting a cabin. What if YOU got sued because someone got stung by a scorpion on your property? Would you still feel the same? Texans all know the state is a haven for Scorpions, but what about people from other states who come to visit you? You're making a PHENOMENALLY complicated situation with too many grey areas sound completely cut-and-dry with nothing but black-and-whites.
Think about it, Borg. W Warborg
This is a very fine line we're walking
Finally, the staff were aware people were feeding the alligators. Granted, feeding them makes them more accustomed to humans and now they see humans and believe everytime they see human they will get food. These were hotel guests, that were feeding them, not Staff. I assume there must have been signs not to feed the gators if people felt it was important to bring it to Staff's attention, right?
Yet it was still done anyway and for quite some time. Shouldn't each and every hotel guest who fed the gators ALSO be held partially responsible for the attack and liable? I think so. How? Good question,, but just because we can't blame the people responsible, we're going to take the next best thing? Really? While we are busy pointing the finger at who we think is responsible, there are 3 fingers pointing back at us. Make no mistake - we did this to ourselves.
Is that what Americans are coming to?
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Was at a resort in mexico years ago and they did exactly that. Fenced off all the bodies of water on the resort had signs up too. Anything off their property was fair game
No way anyone could enter a body of water on that property with out full knowledge that their were crocs in them and they had to climb a fence to do so which would be blatantly breaking the rules
isn't swimming and wading when the sign said "NO" also a blatant disregard for the rules also?
And that fence was just working out of dumb-luck. Without a concrete footer all the way around, there's nothing stopping them from digging their way under that fence. I've seen it before.
You're thinking like a Parent, which is fine......now try thinking like a Scientist or a Lawyer. Time to get technical
I agree with a lot of your points
Frank Castle
and can respect gators and virtually all other living beings for their ecological niche or at least I try to(yes i hunt/fish and squish bugs on occassion). There does come a time when conflicts with humans may require removal of these dangerous animal, at the same time I think there should be ample habitat set aside for them where conflicts with humans aren't likely to occur. In my mind, the root of the problem is too many humans, i cant comment on the specifics of gator population as i havent researched...The state of Florida does actively eradicate mosquitoes by the way
Frank Castle
and can respect gators and virtually all other living beings for their ecological niche or at least I try to(yes i hunt/fish and squish bugs on occassion). There does come a time when conflicts with humans may require removal of these dangerous animal, at the same time I think there should be ample habitat set aside for them where conflicts with humans aren't likely to occur. In my mind, the root of the problem is too many humans, i cant comment on the specifics of gator population as i havent researched...The state of Florida does actively eradicate mosquitoes by the way
There are over 1,000,000 just in the state of FL, probably 3,000,000 total in all states they are native combined. We're talking about controlling Mother Nature the strongest force on Earth. That didn't work out too well when New Orleans tried doing it, yet we didn't learn.I agree with a lot of your points
Yep and if some third world resort can afford it then certainly Disney can damned sure afford to do so eventhough they are in the middle of a giant swamp.
I agree with a lot of your points
Fence worked just fine on the resort i stayed at.
Look all im saying is a simple sign stating gators present would have been enough for me to say that i lm not staying in this resort with my kids and murphey's law.
This wasnt africa or the outback was a privately owned resort. I get the point that maybe parents are too lax now adays and can see that side of the argument. But disney was aware that the gators were lossing their fear of humans, staff reported this to mgmt also stated that guests were feeding gators at a nearby resort, also requested that a fence be put up.
