help me, i'm loosing my orino

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pokero

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Hello guys,
could somebody help me?
It is 2 days that my orino is swimming around, he doesn't eat. Look at the movie.


Water parameter :
25°C - 77 °F
7.64 PH
0.016 NH3
Yesterday I put him in saltwater ( 400 gr salt in 20 liter water ) for 10 minutes, but no change.
Do you have any suggestions?
Do you think wuould be dangerous for the others
thank you
Roberto
 
pokero said:
Hello guys,
could somebody help me?
It is 2 days that my orino is swimming around, he doesn't eat. Look at the movie.


Water parameter :
25°C - 77 °F
7.64 PH
0.016 NH3
Yesterday I put him in saltwater ( 400 gr salt in 20 liter water ) for 10 minutes, but no change.
Do you have any suggestions?
Do you think wuould be dangerous for the others
thank you
Roberto
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Ahhh sad. A nice group of fish and that orino is a stunner. All of your other fish look fine so I doubt it's ammonia or nitrites. IMO your temp is a little cool but I can't see this causing this issue.

It is possible that your bass took a hard blow from another bass. Or hit the glass being chased. I've experienced this before with similar results. Check for marks on the fish. It could also be the fish's swimbladder but I don't know much about treating this besides releasing pressure and I wouldn't attempt that on your fish unless you definitely knew it was a swimbladder air pressure issue.

Sadly I don't think there is much that you can do here. You can try holding the fish in front of power head to try to bring him back and reviving him. I've seen this work for others. I'd stay away from salt dips. Add prazipro to the tank to be on the safe side for the other fish. It won't effect your biological filtration or rays if you have any.

Good luck brother and keep us posted. Hopefully your bass pulls through.
 
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bOOsteN aUdI said:
Ahhh sad. A nice group of fish and that orino is a stunner. All of your other fish look fine so I doubt it's ammonia or nitrites. IMO your temp is a little cool but I can't see this causing this issue.

It is possible that your bass took a hard blow from another bass. Or hit the glass being chased. I've experienced this before with similar results. Check for marks on the fish. It could also be the fish's swimbladder but I don't know much about treating this besides releasing pressure and I wouldn't attempt that on your fish unless you definitely knew it was a swimbladder air pressure issue.

Sadly I don't think there is much that you can do here. You can try holding the fish in front of power head to try to bring him back and reviving him. I've seen this work for others. I'd stay away from salt dips. Add prazipro to the tank to be on the safe side for the other fish. It won't
effect your biological filtration or rays if you have any.

Good luck brother and keep us posted. Hopefully your bass pulls through.
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Thank you for your post,
yes, all the other fishes are ok and I agree with you that could be a swimbladder problem, may be due to some blow from the others or hitting the glass or some disease. I don't see nothing on the fish.
I heard about salt treatment can help but I'm not sure to do another time. Seems to be very stressing for him, without any results.I'm looking him now and he doesn't look very well.
I think we can do anything.
Very sad.
 
pokero said:
Thank you for your post,
yes, all the other fishes are ok and I agree with you that could be a swimbladder problem, may be due to some blow from the others or hitting the glass or some disease. I don't see nothing on the fish.
I heard about salt treatment can help but I'm not sure to do another time. Seems to be very stressing for him, without any results.I'm looking him now and he doesn't look very well.
I think we can do anything.
Very sad.
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Salt bath is good for external parasites but can highly stress the fish due to the huge ph swing. Try placing the fish with his mouth open in front of flow. If you really feel the fish is not going to make it, there is always the freezer option :( for luck brother.
 
Dis said:
Any updates? Hope he pulled through for you
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no good news.
The fish is still alive, but with the belly up.
May be tomorrow I will receive a medication from Germany ( many tanks to Heiko Blessin,a biolog from JBL ) that could cure the swimming bladder ( it is an antibiotic not sold in Italy that contain Nifurpirinol ).
The fish is very bad,but I think that cure could hepl some other.
I'll keep you informed
 
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Dis said:
Hope things improve, goodluck with the medicine.
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Hallo guys,
the fish is dead.
Unfortunately the medicine is arrive today. Too later.
However I think that it can help the fish, Heiko is a professional biologist.
I remember I had the same case 3 yeras ago and also at that time I lost mi fish.


Hope this can help also some other of you.
Thank you for your partecipation
 
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