Mass Shooting at High School in Parkland, Florida

[jaws7777]

"Parsing 2012 numbers, the center counted 259 justifiable gun-related homicides, or incidents in which authorities ruled that killings occurred in self-defense.
That's in a nation in which there are some 300 million firearms, nearly one for every person (though only a little over a third of Americans own guns — and there's an interesting take on that here, and on the ramifications of gun ownership on murder rates here, and while you're reading links, this is of interest, too). This is also a nation in which, in 2012, there were 1.2 million violent crimes, defined as murder, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault. Or, put another way, 1.2 million scenarios in which there was potential for someone to kill in self-defense"

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-guns-self-defense-charleston-20150619-story.html?outputType=amp

 

[krichardson]

The dims(namely Barbara Feinstein) are calling for bans and they will never stop until they get exactly that.It will start with any so called "senisible and common sense" measures that are agreed on and then they will continue to chip away at whatever is left.
Someone brought up an interesting point that I came across earlier;
"Remember this double standard,when a muslim commits an act of terror we are told not to blame all muslims because it is only a few radicals.If that is the case then why are all gun owners and associations being blamed".

 

[jaws7777]

The dims(namely Barbara Feinstein) are calling for bans and they will never stop until they get exactly that.It will start with any so called "senisible and common sense" measures that are agreed on and then they will continue to chip away at whatever is left.
Someone brought up an interesting point that I came across earlier;
"Remember this double standard,ewhen a muslim commits an act of terror we are told not to blame all muslims because it is only a few radicals.If that is the case then why are all gun owners and associations being blamed".

Bro the dims are soulless. I seriously do t think they give a crap. They call for bans because they know its the extreme and wont happen.

We know how successful they are when they "really" wanna get something done smh. If they really wanted to do something we'd see pelosi strong arming everyone like she did with oshamacare

 

[krichardson]

Did someone say Pelosi?

 

[pescado209]

the truth is gun control doesn't work.. just look at Chicago if that's to close to home just take a look at my "home " country, Mexico. guns are illegal there, there is literally one gun store and it's in Mexico city . the only way to get to the store is after extensive bckground checks and after applying for a moving permit. you need a permit to move a gun from one house to another, from home to the "range". yet Mexico has one of the highest murder rate , if not the highest murder rate in the world. criminals don't care for laws. do you really think that some one that plans to murder people will care about gun laws?

it's a complicated issue but outlawing something because you don't like based on how it looks doesn't solve the issue. we have better security for our liqueur stores and banks than our kids. letting teacher that want to carry is a good option in my opinion. Will it solve all our problems no it won't. but it will help.

punishing law abiding citizens because of the few is stupid, no different than blaming all muslims for the actions of isis.

there was no law that would have prevented what happened. the POS passed a background check performed by the fbi. his gun was legal and no diferemt than your average hunting rifle, actually weaker than you average hunting rifle (223/5.56 is a very small round for a rifle). only things we can do is to better protect the children, but no politicians would rather go after an inanimate object that's used in less crimes than hammers bats and fist.

 

[pescado209]

also the fbi report showed that the last "assault weapon ban" didnt have any effect on crime. don't have the link at the moment .

 

[krichardson]

also the fbi report showed that the last "assault weapon ban" didnt have any effect on crime. don't have the link at the moment .

I have heard that as well.
How about someone adress the issue of why so many young people feel that it is okay to go out and kill people just because they don't like the way that their own life is going.

 

[skjl47]

Can you post the info your referring to regarding guns being used 2million times per yr.

Hello; Yes I can. In particular it was the July 2017 issue of the American Rifleman magazine on page 10. In addition to the comments about over two million uses for personal protection there were six descriptions of individual cases of firearm use during home invasions and such. Let me make a main point again, not every use of a gun results in a death. Sometimes a gun is merely present and not fired. Each month this publication has around six examples of the positive use of a firearm. Positive in the sense the innocent person was able to defend themselves or family, but sometimes negative for a burglars and such as they do die.

A terrorist used a van to kill last year. Now that van is being used in comparison to a mass shooting in a school ? How does that make sense

Hello; The point is it is not the tool that is the problem but the person. Vehicles have been used more than once in mass killings. No a vehicle cannot be used against people in a building.

his gun was legal and no diferemt than your average hunting rifle, actually weaker than you average hunting rifle (223/5.56 is a very small round for a rifle).

hello; One of the reasons the 223/5.56 was adopted by the military was the rounds are much lighter than the 0.30 caliber rounds use before. That way a soldier can carry almost twice the number of rounds of the 5.56/223. A firepower advantage not a bullet energy advantage.

 

[pescado209]

I have heard that as well.
How about someone adress the issue of why so many young people feel that it is okay to go out and kill people just because they don't like the way that their own life is going.

I think it has

I have heard that as well.
How about someone adress the issue of why so many young people feel that it is okay to go out and kill people just because they don't like the way that their own life is going.

I personally think it has alot to do with the over sheltering of kids. everybody gets a trophy nobody loses you can't do no wrong mentally.

then they get out of school and realized that there are winners and losers in real life. trying isn't good enough and you either sink or swim.

when you have never lost as a child and have not developed the mental stability to learn from your failures they tend to snap and go crazy when reality slaps them in the face.

life is not fair, if you lose you lose, no participation trophies for you comrade.

 

[krichardson]

I think it has

I personally think it has alot to do with the over sheltering of kids. everybody gets a trophy nobody loses you can't do no wrong mentally.

then they get out of school and realized that there are winners and losers in real life. trying isn't good enough and you either sink or swim.

when you have never lost as a child and have not developed the mental stability to learn from your failures they tend to snap and go crazy when reality slaps them in the face.

life is not fair, if you lose you lose, no participation trophies for you comrade.

Yep...the wimpification of America.