I give up on society

[fishhead0103666]

AI has already evolved far enough to create pictures of people that don’t exist with scary preciseness.

 

[CarpCharacin]

Also, did you hear about He Jiankui, and the first genetically modified babies? This could be the beginning of a new era of eugenics, and that scares me very much, it comes with a whole new set of implications that could wipe out humanity.

Not to get into a whole different direct here lol. But climate change has been happening for millions of years in a cycle long before man ever proliferated the earth. How could you state that its 100% human technology related?

By climate change, I am referring to human-caused changes to the climate. Sure, the climate changed before humans, but pretty much all of the changes before the industrial revolution can be explained by natural phenomena.

AI has already evolved far enough to create pictures of people that don’t exist with scary preciseness.

Yeah, but the abilities of AI are still very specific, it hasn't even achieved a low level of general intellegence, and it may not even be able to attain consciousness and self-awareness, at least not in the way we experience it.

 

[Lilyann]

With problems caused by technology such as climate change, etc., I honestly don't see how a civilization could become a type 2 civilization on the Kardashev scale.

Hopefully it will pass before irreparable damage is done. Also, that's kind of my point, there is no going back, which I feel somewhat supports the theory of technology being the great filter, because we create problems with our technology, but instead of stopping use of said technology, we look for solutions to the problem using more technology, which is counterintuitive and will lead to additional problems stemming from said technology.

Climate damage began with the industrial age, bot the technological one. Actually, the technological age has brought on the realization of what the industrial age has sat in our laps. The basic machine engine that ran on carbon is what we need to get rid of- this is a remnant of the previous age- not the technological one.

 

[jaws7777]

Uh oh climate change

 

[Lilyann]

Not to get into a whole different direct here lol. But climate change has been happening for millions of years in a cycle long before man ever proliferated the earth. How could you state that its 100% human technology related?

There is an acceleration of damage to the climate far beyond the millennia that each previous change to geological age required. This change, instead of taking a millennia have taken a 150 years- directly corresponding with the industrialization of Europe and North America. There is no argument here.

 

[jaws7777]

Idk guys im pretty sure we are adding to the carbon foot print but there have been something like 5 or 6 ice ages and periods in time where the ice almost completely receded, and thats the number that the scientists agree. Could very well be more.

We've been in a warm spell for the past 10 or 15k yrs.

 

[CarpCharacin]

Climate damage began with the industrial age, bot the technological one. Actually, the technological age has brought on the realization of what the industrial age has sat in our laps. The basic machine engine that ran on carbon is what we need to get rid of- this is a remnant of the previous age- not the technological one.

I know, but a lot of society is still based on "traditional" industrial technologies like you said, and I agree, it's something that we need to get rid of, but lasting changes have already been made to the environment, and I'm no vegan, but animal agriculture is still a very large source of greenhouse gas emissions,. Industry is the production of products within an economy, and the industrial revolution was when we really started to apply human technology in the production of said products. While the traditional internal combustion engine is not really "digital" per se, it is still very much technology.

 

[jaws7777]

What i find more interesting is what we lost during these ice ages. What if in the past we were just as advanced as we are today but in different areas. Main stream has been taking a beating the past few yrs guys like zahi hawass are routinely proven inaccurate.

 

[Steve_C]

There is an acceleration of damage to the climate far beyond the millennia that each previous change to geological age required. This change, instead of taking a millenia have taken a 150 years. There is no argument here.

The difference though has been proven to be insignificant in the grand scheme of things. A difference in 150ppm of carbon dioxide because of man looks big on a graph, but in reality the actual impact on the earth is not even noticeable.

With that said, I'll simply say there are obviously differing opinions on climate change and its impact on things, and that's okay, we don't all have to agree on things like that we can have varying opinions on that. And it's not really something we can discuss in detail here though because it would obviously bring in too much political slant which is prohibited on this site for good reason, so I'll just leave it as there's different views on climate change and its impact.

 

[Lilyann]

Idk guys im pretty sure we are adding to the carbon foot print but there have been something like 5 or 6 ice ages and periods in time where the ice almost completely receded, and thats the number that the scientists agree. Could very well be more.

We've been in a warm spell for the past 10 or 15k yrs.

We are in the age of the Anthropocene (age of man)- it is a warmer age; however, if you look on a scale of temperatures within this age, you can see an acceleration of temperatures ( far beyond any other natural process of temperature rise in the geological record) that corresponds with industrialization.