I would agree.my earlier comment was kind of inaccurate. I was thinking along the lines of uneaten food in the tank vs what gets sucked up into the filtration. Either way its the same thing. But yeah if you can remove it before then, it has to add less to the bioload
Effects of feeding too much on tank water quality
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What about the use of Probiotics and say pothos etc?
Theres a method by triton where you basically don't change water. You send in samples they test then you dose etc to get water quality back in shape. Unless something crazy happens. It is sw but still.
What I noticed is the quality of the pellet also. If you feed garbage pellets theres a lot more waste vs a quality one. More efficient digestion I take it.
I also don't think enough people test their TDS.
Theres a method by triton where you basically don't change water. You send in samples they test then you dose etc to get water quality back in shape. Unless something crazy happens. It is sw but still.
What I noticed is the quality of the pellet also. If you feed garbage pellets theres a lot more waste vs a quality one. More efficient digestion I take it.
I also don't think enough people test their TDS.
Ive never noticed any difference in nitrates with the use of probiotics or ridx to be exact.
I'm not as experienced as all you other people, but not changing water doesn't sound good. No matter what you add to the aquarium.
Aren't there other chems that need to be flushed out besides nitrates? Again, I am no expert.
Oh no i meant in addition to wc's i bever noticed a decrease in nitrates when dosing ridx vs not dosing
Heres the elusive thread. Lol now it makes sense haha.
https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/how-fat-is-too-fat.710514/
Probably not the best example to begin with cb polys are notorious for eating disorders. Probably most common in dels, sometimes teugs and endlis too. No matter what the nutrition content of the food nor methods like feeding tubes can resolve it. Most just resort to removing them from a comm setting.
https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/how-fat-is-too-fat.710514/
Probably not the best example to begin with cb polys are notorious for eating disorders. Probably most common in dels, sometimes teugs and endlis too. No matter what the nutrition content of the food nor methods like feeding tubes can resolve it. Most just resort to removing them from a comm setting.
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I was noting what PYRU said - "Theres a method by triton where you basically don't change water. " Maybe I misread?
I believe the main thing about probiotics is the competition of neutral vs pathogenic bacteria, not so much nitrate removal since that is an anaerobic process and requires a whole other discussion entirely.
Food that's higher in quality will generally have better nutritional value and more food which can be digested, resulting in less waste being expelled.
One thing to consider is that fish are ALWAYS expelling nitrogenous waste as a byproduct of being alive and cellular processes in general. The rest will be whatever they don't digest, so if a food is too high in proteins or other components they will be expelled. And just anything else they don't need. From this I wonder if more frequent, smaller feedings will benefit fish as they have enough time to digest and take what they need instead of overloading them, but on the other side fish are built to store a decent amount of energy so surely they can handle it.
I believe a key thing is the right protein sources. Fish meal proteins, fatty oils and amino acids are important in the diets. How well fish can handle grain or mammalian fats/proteins is a different story for another day. Brine shrimp contains many important amino acids and many people I know use freshly hatched BBS (Less than a day old) to feed fry or newly imported fish, the proteins are vital for growth and recovery and are hard to find in other food sources.
That's my short 2c, I do thing feeding a little less can definitely help prolong a fishes lifespan. Really depends on the species and diet style of the species.
Food that's higher in quality will generally have better nutritional value and more food which can be digested, resulting in less waste being expelled.
One thing to consider is that fish are ALWAYS expelling nitrogenous waste as a byproduct of being alive and cellular processes in general. The rest will be whatever they don't digest, so if a food is too high in proteins or other components they will be expelled. And just anything else they don't need. From this I wonder if more frequent, smaller feedings will benefit fish as they have enough time to digest and take what they need instead of overloading them, but on the other side fish are built to store a decent amount of energy so surely they can handle it.
I believe a key thing is the right protein sources. Fish meal proteins, fatty oils and amino acids are important in the diets. How well fish can handle grain or mammalian fats/proteins is a different story for another day. Brine shrimp contains many important amino acids and many people I know use freshly hatched BBS (Less than a day old) to feed fry or newly imported fish, the proteins are vital for growth and recovery and are hard to find in other food sources.
That's my short 2c, I do thing feeding a little less can definitely help prolong a fishes lifespan. Really depends on the species and diet style of the species.
Isnt most of the nitrogenous waste produced or excreted in a form of urine from the fishes gills ? I could be wrong but i was under the assumption that less is produced in the form if solid waste.
