Oily fish vs. water quality and oily (or saltwater) fish as nutrition are two different things. Some good pellets include salmon, herring, etc., which in pellet form (vs. raw) don't bother water quality ime.
Dietary ponderings
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There's no reason why a pellet should bother water quality.I went through enough of that with Tetra Jumbo Min years ago lol.
It seems that you didn't look into this beyond the pipe dream stage.
www.food.gov.uk
Things to be aware of
It is not permitted to make a commercial raw pet-food product from your domestic kitchen.
It is not currently permitted to produce a pet-food product in a business approved or registered to produce food for human consumption. We are currently considering this position.
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Seems pretty cut & dry to me. The UK can be pretty anal with regards to human grade products, and having worked in the pet food industry for close a decade I also know how anal many regulatory bodies can be in that area. From a hobbyists perspective I would never buy from an unregulated source, for just that reason, there is no telling how that "fresh" fish had been handled along the way between the ocean, the fishmonger, the non licensed vendor, and myself.
Pet food
The FSA is responsible for animal feed legislation which covers the manufacture of feed for non-food producing animals including pet food and pet treats.
www.food.gov.uk
Things to be aware of
It is not permitted to make a commercial raw pet-food product from your domestic kitchen.
It is not currently permitted to produce a pet-food product in a business approved or registered to produce food for human consumption. We are currently considering this position.
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Seems pretty cut & dry to me. The UK can be pretty anal with regards to human grade products, and having worked in the pet food industry for close a decade I also know how anal many regulatory bodies can be in that area. From a hobbyists perspective I would never buy from an unregulated source, for just that reason, there is no telling how that "fresh" fish had been handled along the way between the ocean, the fishmonger, the non licensed vendor, and myself.
Interesting points you raise there RD however that being said, I would like to respectfully add I think your jumping the gun a little with your assumptions. First as I've already conceded, I wouldn't be aiming to do this as a means of making a living not have i said it's anything more than an idea. Secondly, I haven't claimed at any point any form of interest in doing anything illegal, hence I wouldn't do it unlicensed. Thirdly I'm this instance the fishmonger and vendor are one and the same just operating under separate names i guess. Fourthly I concede that the location issue is one i hadn't expected, I was planning on just operating from the fishmongery establishment i work at. I'm going to need to look into this further though 'approved or registered to produce good for human consumption' now whilst it goes without saying we of course sell fish for human consumption, the word 'produce' implies to me, preparing as in cooking and the like, we don't do anything like that, we deal with raw fish, we're not a restaurant or anything along them lines, add to that the fact most butchers cater to dogs in a blatant manner of has me wondering if that's a cheeky little loophole..
Perhaps, but it certainly doesn't seem the way that one would approach a business venture, which is what this would be, if done for profit. Whether one makes a living at it, or not, doesn't factor into the business part of the equation. I suggest that you look into the business side of this in the UK, and then worry about how to go about selling packaged fish from the market, to hobbyists, and the fee that hobbyists would be willing to pay for this service. IMO you have placed the cart well ahead of the horse. Good luck.
Because oily fish are really fatty and mess with water quality. When I fed salmon I got an oily film on top of the water and the fish created way more waste
I believe I am looking into the business side of things already just at the early stages of course. I have already looked into costs of appropriate packaging and next day delivery in the uk. I just had an unplanned brainwave and figured I'd try to get some thoughts on here. Also, what do you mean by packaged fish? If I do decide to give it a go it would be using quality fish, not pre packaged supermarket stuff. Any filleting, slicing, any sort of preparation would be done by myself to the same standard to which I serve usual customers as a skilled fishmonger who takes pride in his work.
i don't want to come across as rude or anything, just at the same time I also don't want incorrect assumptions to be made regarding myself. I do appreciate the feedback genuinely I'm just cautious of being misunderstood. Perceptions stick and I'm wary of incorrect perceptions being attached to me, if I seem defensive then that is why.
i don't want to come across as rude or anything, just at the same time I also don't want incorrect assumptions to be made regarding myself. I do appreciate the feedback genuinely I'm just cautious of being misunderstood. Perceptions stick and I'm wary of incorrect perceptions being attached to me, if I seem defensive then that is why.
I assumed that the end product would be packaged, by you, or your employees. I thought that was obvious, I guess not. Appropriate packaging and next day delivery in the uk will be the least of your worries. In fact, until you figure out all of the potential total costs involved, in licensing, proper pet food labels, your time, etc, there's really no point in even considering what a consumer will pay. This type of pet food may not even be legal in the UK. You might want to start there. Look at the business end of things first, and that will give you an idea if this is a feasible venture, or not. Right now all you basically have is as you put it, an unplanned brainwave.
You aren't being rude. Don't let some people's negative attitude get to you. Listen to the advice with a grain of salt. Use what is useful and disregard the rest. Good luck.
Negative attitude? Gee, is that me you are referring to, Dave? Lol Seeing as I worked in the pet food industry for close to a decade, including being supplied by a vendor who was APHIS approved, and shipped to the UK on a regular basis, I probably have just a wee bit more knowledge in this area, than most here. Including, but not limited to, the UK's labeling laws regarding pet food. The OP would be wise to pay attention to everything that I have posted.
