Growth on mouth - URGENT assistance please

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Hi All,

Just after some advice, I have a Texas with a growth on his mouth, literally started as a red spot about a week ago, I though he had been playing lip lock with his mate as they were just about to spawn.

In the last 7 days the growth has gained in size substantially and is now on top and bottom lip, I have done 2 x 60% water changes in the last week (first step make sure the water is in good shape) and yesterday treated the whole tank with Tri-Sulfa as if it is bacterial i may have a shot at slowing it down, but this morning seems worse again. I know they can be susceptible to fatty deposits like little pimples but this is way more than that, i assume if i cant stop the growth at this rate within a few more days he wont be able to eat and then just a matter of time till death.

I don't think my LFS is even open at the moment to get any other meds so would have to get them online and wait till they arrive which even if i ordered today would be next week at the earliest

I haven't tried to remove him and dont want to unless absolutely necessary as it will cause chaos and stress in the tank, all other fish 100% normal

(notes: 6 ft tank 570ltr, FX6 canister, two large sponge filters, 2 Texas (pair), 3 severum, large pleco and 7 peacocks (yeah i know its mixed American/African..lol...), water changes minimum every second week (usually weekly) of about 60-70%)



Any assistance/advice would be appreciated (pics are from this morning)

Cheers

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Is the mouth normally sticking out like that after lip locking? Add salt 1 tsp per g. Maybe duck lips vs lymphocystis. The way the mouth protrudes says more duck lips. Would add kanamycin on top of the triple sulfa. See what duanes duanes and Aquanero Aquanero say.
 
Hi kno4te kno4te , Thank you

In regards to the mouth it doesn't normally stick out like that, I think there is growth on the inside of the mouth that is holding the mouth open like that

He is actually getting rapidly worse, his breathing seems laboured and continuous long slow gill movement , i can see a little more into his mouth at the angle he is and the growth on the inside seems to have almost closed his whole mouth
 
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Hi kno4te kno4te , Thank you

In regards to the mouth it doesn't normally stick out like that, I think there is growth on the inside of the mouth that is holding the mouth open like that
I’ve seen lymphocytosis do similar but don’t often see the mouth jet out. Big issue is stress and inoculation of columnaris in the lips can be somewhat similar. Also suggest to reduce ur temps to low 60-70s in case Duanes agrees it to be duck lips.
 
Thank squint
Is Tri-Sulfa an antibacterial ? That is the only medicine i currently have , i can double dose by the directions


It is but it's old. I wouldn't count on it working especially since many aquarium medications are underdosed.
 
Thank for everyone's help.
I hit the tank with a
second dose of Tri-Sulfa yesterday afternoon
Unfortunately what ever it was progressed so quickly overnight the growth swelled so large it blocked his whole mouth and he was dead this morning
So now
the tank is basically in quarantine, i will do some large water changes over the next few days to clear the tri-sulfa
And consider the tanks long term future if duanes duanes was correct

Thank everyone for the
help anyway

RIP - Brutus
 
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