Do I need to change the water parameters to keep and breed Apistogrammas?

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The region of the united States that I’m from has very very high hardness and ph of 8.6. I want to have and breed some Apistogrammas and I don’t know if or how I should change the hardness or ph. can I have some suggestions and answers?
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It depends on whether or not you’re looking to breed blackwater Apistos vs. Apistos that come from a range of water parameters and are more flexible. That’s a ridiculously high pH to keep almost all Amazonian fish in, with a handful of exceptions.
 
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The region of the united States that I’m from has very very high hardness and ph of 8.6. I want to have and breed some Apistogrammas and I don’t know if or how I should change the hardness or ph. can I have some suggestions and answers?
Thank You
I personally have hard water in my area as well and have had good and bad experiences with Apistogramma. I now use leaf litter in the aquarium with Soft water species and have had a successful spawn from a pair of Orange Flash Cacatuoides. You may want to setup a R/O system. Here is a vid of the Pair I once had.
 
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There are over 100 species of Apistogramma, found all over South America. Even some as far south as Uruguay which may prefer harder water, and even winter cool downs.
That said, most types found in the hobby come from northern S America, and are from soft, acidic water habitats.
Some of these line bred types that have been in the hobby for 100 years may have built up tolerance and adapted to hard water, but if pH and other factors are too high, may produce single sex spawns.
Mixing your hard water with RO/DI, or rain water could help.
Also adding tannins could be a plus, especially because of their antibacterial quality.
I have soaked leaf litter to get tannins, peat moss, or hanging old tea bags in HOB filters to take advantage of them
for these type soft water fish when I lived in a similar hard water area.

I also put leaf litter in tanks, just like they might experience in nature.
 
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In fl I know of a few who were able to get hongsloi and cacatoides to breed in hard water. The others need that soft water it appears.
 
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I’ve been referring to cacatoides. My dad has a farming business so should I see if in the next chemical shipment I could get him to get a couple hundred gallons of just purified water?
 
I’ve been referring to cacatoides. My dad has a farming business so should I see if in the next chemical shipment I could get him to get a couple hundred gallons of just purified water?
You can.
 
With PH that high I would go with African cichlids.
 
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