Jaguar Cichlids sexing

[Tastymintz]

Rescued two jaguar cichlids today around 4-5", one is pretty badly beaten up. They were living with much larger cichlids.

Anyhow. If somebody could tell me what sex think they both are.
Thanks guys!
EDIT: Sorry about the pictures, best I could do since they're mega skittish.

Fish #1

Spoiler: Fish 1

Fish #2

Spoiler: Fish 2

 

[dan518]

Let them settle in a bit both look like possible males.

 

[Tastymintz]

Venting added

1 Picture of each fish, guessing they're the same gender but who can tell me which?

Let them settle in a bit both look like possible males.

What do you think now with the added venting pics mate? dan518

 

[Rocksor]

My confirmed male jag was O> when vented

 

[Tastymintz]

My confirmed male jag was O> when vented

So these are female?

 

[Rocksor]

So these are female?

I can’t tell from the vent pics. Pic#2 might be female

 

[Tastymintz]

I can’t tell from the vent pics. Pic#2 might be female

Alright well thanks anyway. Hopefully somebody can help or point me in the right direction

 

[Tastymintz]

Nobody?

 

[Rocksor]

Post new pics once they’ve both settled in, maybe a week or 2. It’s hard to tell what the beat up one looks like

 

[Tastymintz]

Post new pics once they’ve both settled in, maybe a week or 2. It’s hard to tell what the beat up one looks like

Alright, they are kinda going at each other or one of them is D: