20” Sailfin Pictus Catfish - internal issue vs. ?

[dr exum]

i’ve got general cure, prazi pro, para guard, levamisole on hand to treat the gallonage i have - need to order anything else -
no other fish are showing signs - just don’t want any more fish dead -

one bass is stressed looking aside from that...

looking for the 280g jar of marcyn2

dang....

 

[dr exum]

Think the fish has septicemia. The achara looked like it had it too from prior pics. I’d try and move the fish to a qt tank and treat. Keep the water clean. Feed the metro if able. Don’t think prazi and levamisole are needed right now.

the l14 pleco is deceased -

wondering what to do for the rest of the tank

 

[kno4te]

the l14 pleco is deceased -

Oh ok. So what’s sick, the fogos?

 

[kno4te]

Oh ok. So what’s sick, the fogos?

If just the fogos then I’d dose the metronidazole for now.

 

[dr exum]

Oh ok. So what’s sick, the fogos?

nothing appears sick - just want to make sure tanks ok -

sounds like clean water is the key to them not getting septicemia?

folks had told me wild bass needed 3 weeks of prazi in QT - i only did one week with the fogo and was wondering if my lack of diligence led to the demise of the cat / l14

hence i was stuck on the prazi

i just need advice on how to proceed following the two losses -

thanks kno4te !

 

[kno4te]

nothing appears sick - just want to make sure tanks ok -

sounds like clean water is the key to them not getting septicemia?

folks had told me wild bass needed 3 weeks of prazi in QT - i only did one week with the fogo and was wondering if my lack of diligence led to the demise of the cat / l14

hence i was stuck on the prazi

i just need advice on how to proceed following the two losses -

thanks kno4te !

Gotcha. Yea clean water prevents a lot. Best of luck with ur stock.

 

[dr exum]

Gotcha. Yea clean water prevents a lot. Best of luck with ur stock.

ok - so you think tank does not need to be treated?

 

[kno4te]

ok - so you think tank does not need to be treated?

No but if there’s white poop then I’d fed them metro for now. Reconsider re-treating with prazi.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

I buy fish meds in bulk from fishman chemicals: https://www.fishchemical.com/FULL-PRODUCT-LIST-2338.Category.html

It's very hard to diagnose from the info given. I understand you don't have any other info.

Septicemia, if I recall correctly, is rarely the primary disease but often the last stage of a multi-stage illness.

My go to parasitic meds are metro+prazi+fenbendazole as one cocktail, best through feed, much less efficient through long term bath.

My go to antibacterial are bi-furan mix, erhythromycin, oxytetracyclene.

Triple sulfa, kanamycin sound nice but I've never tried them.

MicrobeLift Broad Spectrum Disease Treatment I use too for QT and when unsure what I am treating.

Of course, the use of meds should the last measure when everything else has been checked and found fine.

 

[dr exum]

thanks thebiggerthebetter ! starting a 3 week prazi treatment in the tank - going to do levamisole in between -

going to take out all the deco so i can gravel vac the heck out of it -

i’ve gotta get an eyeball on the sun cat and l600 they stay hidden - i wonder why it effected the bottom dwellers -

and the L14 was added after the suncat and L600?

i don’t know....

that’s my understanding as well - Septicemia being the result -

the tank water was also cold 76-78 ? as my drip (winter vs summer) is super cold and i’ve upped it from 120g’s per day to 240g’s

i’ve added more heat to get temp up to 82 -

thanks for the bulk list - i’ll order the meds that have been suggested so they are on hand.....

i just want to prevent future losses obviously-

thanks all!