How many Jack Dempsey's

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So I have a 300 gallon stock tank and want to know how many Jack Dempsey's (preferably breeding pairs) I can put in it. Everything i READ online says 1 JD per tank or 1 breeding pair per tank, but everything I WATCHED on YouTube says you can have 2 or more JD in a tank together. Seeing is believing I guess?‍♂️ I want to keep all the fish that I get (except the feeders) so I dont want to spend a bunch of money on Jack Dempsey's just to have the final contestant left in the tank. All experiences and suggestions are welcome including electric blue and electric pink Jack Dempsey's since I've heard they're less aggressive but I know they're more susceptible to everything.
 
I agree with Rocksor. I've raised spawns together for a while, but once they start to get to the 3 inch size, they will start to pair off. Once you have a pair, the rest of the fish will be crowded to the other side of the tank. If the breeding pair is only 3 inches in size, there won't be too much trouble - esp if the other are similar sized, and you have lots of hiding places, but as time moves forward, you'll have to start separating. Were you hoping to have two breeding pairs in the same tank, both raising spawns at the same time? If so, I'm not sure that is a recipe for success. The males will fight for dominance, and so will the females.

If you wanted to keep all the same gender in a tank, that could work.
 
I agree with Rocksor. I've raised spawns together for a while, but once they start to get to the 3 inch size, they will start to pair off. Once you have a pair, the rest of the fish will be crowded to the other side of the tank. If the breeding pair is only 3 inches in size, there won't be too much trouble - esp if the other are similar sized, and you have lots of hiding places, but as time moves forward, you'll have to start separating. Were you hoping to have two breeding pairs in the same tank, both raising spawns at the same time? If so, I'm not sure that is a recipe for success. The males will fight for dominance, and so will the females.

If you wanted to keep all the same gender in a tank, that could work.
Yes I was hoping to have atleast 2 breeding pairs but if I have to I'll just buy another stock tank.. so I could stock it with 3-4 male Jack Dempsey's???
 
Yes I was hoping to have atleast 2 breeding pairs but if I have to I'll just buy another stock tank.. so I could stock it with 3-4 male Jack Dempsey's???
In a 300 gallon? If you were doing an all male setup, I would go with more like at least 5 6 7 males to distribute aggression. Should have the room
 
So like African cichlids the more the merrier for aggression
Wouldn't say they are that much like africans, behavior of the two groups is very different. I wouldnt recommend haphazard overstocking with any cichlids, but I think there are different perspectives on how to keep ca/sa cichlids, and people's goals differ as well.
I think it's possible to keep healthy fish in tighter quarters or more densely than alot of us would recommend. Rusty Wessell, in his fish house, keeps mostly tanks that many would consider "overstocked". His care and system work though and fish must be in good health and thriving, but there is a tradeoff
you can see at 8:40 here, half the fish in the tank are being kept on one side by a breeding pair. Rusty collects all or most of his rare fish himself and breeds them, which is allows other hobbyists access to new species. There are multiple species named after him even. Because his main goal is to breed these fish, he keeps all genders of different species very densely, and it works for him. For someone who wants a peaceful low stress setup for their living room this might not be the way.

Like in the video, breeding aggression makes these fish very territorial to the point they will keep all other fish pushed in a corner. Very stressful and not great for the other fish. So, if you wanted to keep a larger number of CA cichlids together, it is usually better to go with only one sex. An example of a setup like this would be sbgbuddy sbgbuddy 's 300 gallon all-maleamphilophus community (20) Amphilophus community. | MonsterFishKeepers.com
Some would say you should only keep one or a pair of those fish in a tank that size, and that would probably work too, just a different approach. But he is able to keep a larger number of all-male fish and they are not unhealthy from the looks of it. A setup like this, whether same species or mixed, can require adjustment and not be very stable, but can be made to work.
On the other hand, in the wild, the fish would be much less densely distributed and in a much bigger area. So, if you wanted to keep the fish in as natural a setup as possible (of course not fully, because it's only a few hundred Gallons, not a cenote or lake), you would probably stock less densely.
 
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I know it came off like that but I wasn't meaning 15 fish to a 55 gallon tank like Africans. I meant to help curb aggression I wouldn't want to put just 3 in there. So I'll get a separate stock tank to breed a pair of JD's after I stock my current stock tank with 5 male JD's.
 
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