How has the coronavirus affected your personal life?

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Yes...but the number of people who are fully vaccinated and still get the bug is miniscule...yet you can bet good money that the anti-vaxxers will point and shout "See? See?? WE TOLD YOU SO!!!"

Being killed because the house you are in collapses onto you is exceedingly rare, but it does happen. Clearly, the only way to stay safe from this horrible death is to not go into houses, ever. Staying outside exposed to the elements should obviously be completely safe...right? Except it's not.

Vaccines are like that; they're the lesser...far, far lesser...of two evils, the other being the virus itself.
I'm not a anti vaxxer but nice rant anyway. You don't know the number of people who are vaccinated who are catching covid because a lot of them don't show symptoms and people who have been vaccinated are not being tested regularly. A lot of people who have been vaccinated are reckless in there behavior because they confuse a vaccine with a cure. People are desperate to rip and run and be in people's face without mask as if they have been locked in solitary confinement for 10 years. Nobody really knows what's going on with this covid for real it's a bunch of guessing and experimentation. I have no problem with the vaccine, but I'm still ordering my food to go lol I'm in no rush to sit and eat in public with a lot of people who were nasty before covid. People don't believe in taking things slow and covid will continue to spread in a country like American full of arrogant, selfish people who think they know everything. My wife works from home, kids were doing online learning before school stopped and I don't have to go back to work until September thank God. The vaccine is definitely a good thing but it would be even better if people could slow down and consider others.
 
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Possible but very rare. And, importantly, people who are vaccinated and get COVID very, very, very rarely needing to be hospitalized or dying.

People who aren't vaccinated are getting and spreading COVID like crazy, overwhelming ICUs and dying.
If you believe everything you here on the news vaccinated people have died also, of course the vaccine will give you a much better chance of survival. Also there is no vaccine for young kids so just because a person is vaccinated doesn't mean they can't pass covid to young children. I am very fortunate to have a doctor who really cares that is up front and honest because there is a lot going on with covid that isn't discussed in the puplic. She had bad reactions to her first and second shots and admitted these vaccines still need a lot of work. The vaccine is good for sure but I'm in no rush to go to restaurants, movie theaters, sporting events, clubs or any of that anytime soon. We have enjoyed the time spent with our kids that you can never have when you are working and they are in school. Not to mention the almost $15,000 saved during lock down. I don't have any problems with the vaccine just the people like a guy who wanted to fight the people at dunkin donuts the other because they said he had to put on a mask to be served. People like him believe he was given a cure and he has no regard for the life of others.
 
I'm not a anti vaxxer but nice rant anyway. You don't know the number of people who are vaccinated who are catching covid because a lot of them don't show symptoms and people who have been vaccinated are not being tested regularly. A lot of people who have been vaccinated are reckless in there behavior because they confuse a vaccine with a cure. People are desperate to rip and run and be in people's face without mask as if they have been locked in solitary confinement for 10 years. Nobody really knows what's going on with this covid for real it's a bunch of guessing and experimentation. I have no problem with the vaccine, but I'm still ordering my food to go lol I'm in no rush to sit and eat in public with a lot of people who were nasty before covid. People don't believe in taking things slow and covid will continue to spread in a country like American full of arrogant, selfish people who think they know everything. My wife works from home, kids were doing online learning before school stopped and I don't have to go back to work until September thank God. The vaccine is definitely a good thing but it would be even better if people could slow down and consider others.

Wow. I'm more than capable of a good rant now and then, but I wasn't doing so there. Neither was I suggesting that you are an anti; I've read a number of stories just in the last day or so bringing up this idea and several of them present it as though it is the Basic Truth Of Life and they are solely responsible for discovering it. Much of today's "journalism" leans less towards reporting the facts of a story, and more towards telling the listener what he/she should think.

I'm also not American, in case that blanket condemnation of the U.S. was also meant as a personal jab. Up here in Canuckistan we have our share of "arrogant, selfish people who think they know everything" as well, so I'm not unfamiliar with the type.
 
Wow. I'm more than capable of a good rant now and then, but I wasn't doing so there. Neither was I suggesting that you are an anti; I've read a number of stories just in the last day or so bringing up this idea and several of them present it as though it is the Basic Truth Of Life and they are solely responsible for discovering it. Much of today's "journalism" leans less towards reporting the facts of a story, and more towards telling the listener what he/she should think.

I'm also not American, in case that blanket condemnation of the U.S. was also meant as a personal jab. Up here in Canuckistan we have our share of "arrogant, selfish people who think they know everything" as well, so I'm not unfamiliar with the type.
The U.S. statement was not a jab just what I see everyday as a American.
 
More than 3.6 million children in the United States have tested positive, and at least 297 have died, according to the latest report from American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Association. One reason schools require masks is to try to prevent kids from giving the virus to other people, which can happen even if kids become infected but don’t show symptoms.
Moreover, because adults are being immunized and new variants of the virus are more likely to infect children, "children are rapidly becoming the major reservoir of COVID in the United States," said Dr. Mark Schleiss, professor of pediatrics at the University of Minnesota Medical School. People are rushing to get back to normal when we still know so little about covid a vaccinated person can catch and spread covid to children who don't even have a vaccine available to them yet. I'm all for the vaccine just not opening up everything and throwing away the mask when we are still in the dark about so many issues with covid and it's vaccines.
 
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I agree. We're far from out of this.

My kids (under 12) are in in-person summer school. It's a rule that they wear masks. And, of course, they do.

People who aren't vaccinated should also wear masks in lots of circumstances (CDC has a guide).

It all falls apart when people who aren't vaccinated also don't wear masks.

More than 3.6 million children in the United States have tested positive, and at least 297 have died, according to the latest report from American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Association. One reason schools require masks is to try to prevent kids from giving the virus to other people, which can happen even if kids become infected but don’t show symptoms.
Moreover, because adults are being immunized and new variants of the virus are more likely to infect children, "children are rapidly becoming the major reservoir of COVID in the United States," said Dr. Mark Schleiss, professor of pediatrics at the University of Minnesota Medical School. People are rushing to get back to normal when we still know so little about covid a vaccinated person can catch and spread covid to children who don't even have a vaccine available to them yet. I'm all for the vaccine just not opening up everything and throwing away the mask when we are still in the dark about so many issues with covid and it's vaccines.
 
Hello; The link you provided does not support the statement you made. Testing positive does not necessarily mean a vaccinated person has an active infection and is shedding virus.
These people who have a positive test result should be considered infectious and remain isolated until they again meet criteria for discontinuation of isolation or of transmission-based precautions. This is from the CDC people who test positive should be considered infectious, that's why the lady in the article is in self quarentine. So do you believe that people who are vaccinated and still test positive cannot spread covid because they have had a vaccine I'm lost.
 
I'm from New Zealand, as soon as it got out a cruise ship let the virus in. Straight away our Govt went into hard lockdown for months. We got rid of the virus with minimal damage to the economy. A few hiccups on the way but for a long time we have been virus free with the economy going well. The lockdown was hard but us Kiwi's have come out of it with a sense of pride we fought the good fight, together, as a nation. We only have a Federal gvt here to pint the finger at if they get it wrong, no state govt's running their own routines.
 
New Zealand has really shown the way - definitely something of which to be proud!

One of the fundamental mistakes early on in the US response was deferring as much as we did to states. We had no national strategy for testing, PPE and so many other aspects. States were competing with each other and it drove prices up and made access to protective equipment a challenge for many. This was a decision and one that surely resulted in many deaths.

I'm from New Zealand, as soon as it got out a cruise ship let the virus in. Straight away our Govt went into hard lockdown for months. We got rid of the virus with minimal damage to the economy. A few hiccups on the way but for a long time we have been virus free with the economy going well. The lockdown was hard but us Kiwi's have come out of it with a sense of pride we fought the good fight, together, as a nation. We only have a Federal gvt here to pint the finger at if they get it wrong, no state govt's running their own routines.
 
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