Can you identify this juvenile cichlid species?

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I bought a pack of juvenile new world cichlids, which contained a Firemouth, a convict, Jack Dempsey, green terror, and Texas juvenile cichlid. I have no idea what this one is. I know it’s obviously not the Firemouth or convict but can decide. Thanks for any advice.

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Looks like a jack dempsey to me, just based on the face shape and stress coloration. I don't know for sure though. What I can tell you for sure however, is that that thing is dying. I would get it out of the tank, it looks too far gone for any kind of treatment.
 
I am actually thinking Jack Dempsey too but female (although too early to know), and that is false, it has looked like that for almost 2 months, definitely not dying my friend. It’s a baby lol. It’s one of the most active fish in that grow out tank… I monitor all 8 of my tanks regularly.
 
I am actually thinking Jack Dempsey too but female (although too early to know), and that is false, it has looked like that for almost 2 months, definitely not dying my friend. It’s a baby lol. It’s one of the most active fish in that grow out tank… I monitor all 8 of my tanks regularly.
Not dying based on color but it’s dark bc it’s stressed and it’s tank mates are slowly destroying its fins.
 
Thank you for your answer but it is super frustrating on these threads that when you ask a question everyone gives their two cents on things they have no idea what they’re talking about. Those pictures were taken a couple weeks after I got it. It killed most (all but the convict) that came in the same pack as him. Aside a few dither fish he essentially has the whole 75 gallon tank to himself. Eats normally and is always active. I would never make an assumption on someone else’s fish without seeing it. Y’all generalize way too much and never realize each fish is 100% unique. Again thanks for your reply that had nothing to do with the post, but it’s irrelevant :)
 
Thank you for your answer but it is super frustrating on these threads that when you ask a question everyone gives their two cents on things they have no idea what they’re talking about. Those pictures were taken a couple weeks after I got it. It killed most (all but the convict) that came in the same pack as him. Aside a few dither fish he essentially has the whole 75 gallon tank to himself. Eats normally and is always active. I would never make an assumption on someone else’s fish without seeing it. Y’all generalize way too much and never realize each fish is 100% unique. Again thanks for your reply that had nothing to do with the post, but it’s irrelevant :)
Without any of that information given beforehand how are we supposed to know? All we are doing is identifying the fish and giving advice based on the fish pictured to try to help…

It’s a Jack
 
Although every fish is unique, the colors of that JD (as Niki-up pointed out), are either stress related, or due to it trying to blend into the colors of substrate to feel safe in the tank. What happens a couple weeks later is an unknown.
Its fins and caudal area are somewhat shredded in the shot, so how would anyone looking, know anything different..
Unless you provide that type pertinent, current info in your post, you will get answers that are pertaining to the exact moment the photo was taken.
You get the shape of, and stress the fish showed at that moment in time, not some hypothetical.
 
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Thank you for your answer but it is super frustrating on these threads that when you ask a question everyone gives their two cents on things they have no idea what they’re talking about. Those pictures were taken a couple weeks after I got it. It killed most (all but the convict) that came in the same pack as him. Aside a few dither fish he essentially has the whole 75 gallon tank to himself. Eats normally and is always active. I would never make an assumption on someone else’s fish without seeing it. Y’all generalize way too much and never realize each fish is 100% unique. Again thanks for your reply that had nothing to do with the post, but it’s irrelevant :)
Okay you say it’s super frustrating but you asked for advise. I didn’t make any assumptions in my answer.

In your original post you said
“I bought a pack of juvenile new world cichlids, which contained a Firemouth, a convict, Jack Dempsey, green terror, and Texas juvenile cichlid. I have no idea what this one is. I know it’s obviously not the Firemouth or convict but can decide. Thanks for any advice.”

my comment was more geared towards the previous poster saying it was dying, while not directly dying or sick I just started that it’s tank mates were most likely the cause of the dark colors and pointed out that it’s tank mates were attacking it. Which is clear from the picture posted bc it’s fins are torn up. I didn’t assume you were a bad fish person or not taking care of your fish.

You listed the pack of fish you picked up together and it’s easy to assume they were the culprits of the fin damage. Sorry if this offended you.

if this is the only fish in the tank the fins should heal up fairly quickly with a few water changes. Good luck
 
I'm not going to say that fish is dying, and I'm not going to say it's sick either, because I don't know what's going on on the inside. But externally, from looks alone, and it's as plain as the nose on your face, something isn't right. I'm as concerned as the rest of the posters but you just seem happy dismissing what our eyes are seeing.

How as it got to the stage where it's fins are so shredded, it looks malnourished to me too.

I hope the little fellow grows into a fine specimen of a fish for you I really do but at this moment I share the other posters concerns.
 
If this is NOT how this fish currently looks, and you've had it for 2 months, then why the hell would you post THOSE photos to get help?

Post current photos. Duh.

Also - the last sentence in your original post LITERALLY says " Thanks for any advice." So don't get snarky and holier-than-thou when people then go and give you any advice.

People on fish forums are usually pretty passionate about fish and actually care about their well being, so posting photos of a clearly very stressed, and/or sick, and/or beat to **** fish is going to get you comments from people who are knowledgeable and very concerned about said fish.
 
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