Vegan /vegetarian fish food

[Coot]

I think the responsible thing is to act on the best information you have available, which in the case of most fish will be their natural diet and maybe some studies on specific foods, but not necessarily specific to your species of fish. What people are worried about is that one person will tell you they’re doing it and it’s “going great!”, then act on it instead of weighing it against everything else you’ve heard to the contrary. It’s called confirmation bias and it’s an easy trap to fall into

For example, I’ve seen people asking about keeping brackish fish in fully fresh water. Seems like these fish are always “doing great!” for about a year before they roll over and die. It’s a scenario I’ve seen play out on forums a few times and I could see this going a similar way

Personal opinion is that you should find the most ethically sourced/sustainable food that meets the known requirements of the fish you’re keeping. It’s the best you can do even if it’s not exactly what you were hoping for. Best of luck

 

[Savethemall]

This ^, exactly.

"I was just asking! I'm not actually going to do it! Look how good and noble I am! Be nice to me!"

Again, BS. You asked for the vegan fish food so that you could buy it and feed it to your fish, plain and simple. You claim that you are not subjecting your cat to this fate until someone "proves" to you it works. Your wording implies that you are already dragging your dog down the yellow brick road with you, and your cat will soon follow as soon as that "proof" appears. This upsets people who care for animals, and you have heard over and over that mere survival does not constitute "thriving"...a distinction which you fail to acknowledge or address.

You can insert all the hypotheticals into your question that you want; nobody believes that you aren't champing at the bit to do this. When you find a source that says it's good...that will spell the beginning of a huge decline in the quality of life of those unfortunate animals. The scary part is that you will find what you want somewhere on the internet...there's plenty of "proof" for things like the Flat Earth Theory if you look for it.

This ^, exactly.

"I was just asking! I'm not actually going to do it! Look how good and noble I am! Be nice to me!"

Again, BS. You asked for the vegan fish food so that you could buy it and feed it to your fish, plain and simple. You claim that you are not subjecting your cat to this fate until someone "proves" to you it works. Your wording implies that you are already dragging your dog down the yellow brick road with you, and your cat will soon follow as soon as that "proof" appears. This upsets people who care for animals, and you have heard over and over that mere survival does not constitute "thriving"...a distinction which you fail to acknowledge or address.

You can insert all the hypotheticals into your question that you want; nobody believes that you aren't champing at the bit to do this. When you find a source that says it's good...that will spell the beginning of a huge decline in the quality of life of those unfortunate animals. The scary part is that you will find what you want somewhere on the internet...there's plenty of "proof" for things like the Flat Earth Theory if you look for it.

No.im not looking for a fake approval from an unsupported source. I'm looking for scientific evidence. And if I wont find any, I wont do it. I dont have a dog and the example with the cat is a pretty clear evidence that I'm not doing it unless it will be proven.
Now I gotta ask you.

Do you guys buy fish?

 

[Savethemall]

And back to the main topic, another question -does anyone here have exp feeding with chicken eggs? Do you have any info wether or not it can be as a source of protein and other nutrients instead of meat?

 

[Deadeye]

Egg isn’t really good for fish. They are built for eating insect and fish meat, and terrestrial animal proteins tend to be too fatty for them.

 

[SilverArowanaBoi]

And back to the main topic, another question -does anyone here have exp feeding with chicken eggs? Do you have any info wether or not it can be as a source of protein and other nutrients instead of meat?

Chicken eggs can be used as protein for nesting birds. We've used them to help our old canaries and doves produce better offspring. But I highly doubt they can replace meat as a protein source in the long term, and I reckon they aren't good for fish.

 

[Coot]

Look, not trying to attack you here, but you keep saying you’re looking for real scientific evidence and then you ask if anyone has experience feeding with chicken eggs. I hope you can understand why that sounds a little like you’re just looking for anecdotal evidence to me. It got me thinking about who might actually know about real studies on this sort of thing though and I found that Oregon State University has an aquarium science program. They should know as well as anyone. Maybe send off a couple emails and see if you get a response. I really don’t think you’re going to find what you’re looking for on this forum

https://oregoncoast.edu/aquarium-science-staff/

 

[Backfromthedead]

S Savethemall

We had a conversation about the chicken egg here not too long ago. Apparently it was once common practice to feed boiled and mashed up egg yolk to fish fry. And apparently it has just fallen out of practice due to much better options being available now. I was thinking that the high cholesterol content in egg yolk would not be beneficial at all to fish, maybe even harmful long term but nothing scientific to back that up, just that its far and away from the type of fats most fish have evolved to digest in the wild.

I have no problem with you asking questions like youre doing...i think a lot of the hate youre getting is from people assuming youve already implemented some sort of vegetarian regime with your fish and want to shock you out with it.

To be honest it would require some real research--in the field with wild populations of fish, not forum snooping lol-- to even begin to suggest that even one species of fish thrives as a complete vegetarian. Like i said, i think its entirely possible that certain fish in the wild could subsist entirely on vegetation for different reasons--number one being that there isnt any meat available. Its an interesting thought and if you were to bring the people here some actual data or research that has concluded some of your findings with fish, you might have better luck driving your point here.

 

[Something Fishy Here]

Well i can admit most of my comments to you are based on my annoyance with the people running the cat rescue i know and has nothing to do with you, for that i apologize. There's nothing wrong with asking questions and that is what these forums are for. That being said some of your claims of thriving vegan diets are just that, claims until references are given. I don't have anything against vegans, vegetarians, keto dieters, etc we all gotta make our own choices in this life and if you are asking the questions first and waiting for data before acting, good for you.

 

[Hybridfish7]

Do you guys buy fish?

Don't even think about starting with this. Fish are not dogs or cats.

 

[Tristan & Cichlid]

My opinion about this subject is that we as humans shouldn't force our own beliefs & diets onto our animals. You can't deny thousands (even millions) years of evolution and adaptation from nature. Our fish have adapted to certain circumstances a long time ago, and developed a digestive tract according to it, we can not wave our righteous finger at them and say, ''no more meat for you son'', it simply doesn't work that way. To make things easier for you, the whole ecosystem on our planet is based on recyclement, if mammal X eats mammal Y, dies, and by example drowns the fish will eat it. The omnivore / scavenger fish gets hunted by the predator and the predator fish will get eaten by a mammal hunter. Thats the way of life. If you only want to feed plant matter, then only buy fish that are by nature vegetarian, such as Pearsei or Bocourti. (as an example) I respect your way of life by being a vegetarian, I really do, but please don't force your lifestyle on animals that do not have a choice, nor the capability to adept, and are dependent on your care. Please consider this fact when you adopt an animal in your home / care.