Vegan /vegetarian fish food

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The link only shows the description of the book, or did I miss something? Do you have a link for the full book/article?
 
As it turns out, after a little bit of googling, that this vegetarian fish idea is not as far out there as most of the members here seem to think. Lot of "animal abusers" out there these days i guess...








And here is the website for ^mcfarland springs, who claims to use 100% vegetarian diet for their farmed trout:

Seems like the people who are serious about researching this are focused on several types of algae as a protein source. And it seems like most researchers are more confident about a "mostly" vegetarian aquafeed than a fully vegan one, but my point is that there are institutions out there who are treating this as a real option for the future of aquaculture.
 
lol, those are commercial diets, with studies funded by commercial operations. I don’t even have to look at them, none of them will be long term studies. Most commercial studies last weeks, maybe months. Show me one that runs the lifetime of even a single tropical species, let alone the hundreds of different species hobbyists keep. All I have to do is look in my tanks to make my determination.
 
but my point is that there are institutions out there who are treating this as a real option for the future of aquaculture.

Yes, and have been for decades - due to the rising cost of raw ingredients from animal sources. It’s a cost saving adventure that has nothing to do with the betterment of fish keeping.
 
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Hmmm. I wasnt aware we were making a distinction between aquaculture and fishkeeping for this debate.

Vegan body builders were a poor example.

Pandas were a poor example.

And now apparently, other fish are a poor example.

@RD with respect, what credible research is not funded by commercial operations these days? Please dont tell me public universities or the government or even non profits who by and large are just as corrupt and commercialized as any corporation. If anything i am encouraged that this research is suggesting profitability--how else will it ever get implemented?

I know your contributions and wisdom on the topic here, but how long have you been out of the biz, man? Is it possible youre set in your ways? Cant see anything new as viable?
 
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Yes, and have been for decades - due to the rising cost of raw ingredients from animal sources. It’s a cost saving adventure that has nothing to do with the betterment of fish keeping.

Yes, decades...i guess you answered your own query about the studies lasting the lifetime of a tropical fish...

But it seems to me theyre finally making progress, finding some viability, and if it does indeed save money than it will inevitably spread to ornamental fishkeeping no matter how loud we scream "abuse!"
 
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They made progress with rice hulls and tapioca, , several decades ago. Not sure what your point is? Corn, soybeans, wheat, peas, etc, have all been used for many years. I believe that algae was being trialled 20 or so odd years ago? All in the never ending search for lest costly sources of protein. Less costly, not better, not even ideal. Lots of lower cost ingredients that will get the job done. No argument there. But sounds like OP wants to make his own vegan food, yet doesn’t even understand what amino acids are essential, or at what limit. I have been feeding algae to my fish for many years, but I’m not going to force feed my fish because of my own personal beliefs or ideology.

Nothing against vegans either, I love all women equally. :)
 
Hmmm. I wasnt aware we were making a distinction between aquaculture and fishkeeping for this debate.

Obviously, one has to. Or are we going to compare a fish that will grow and seemingly thrive on a diet of rice hulls and corn such as the Nile Tilapia (in one of your links above) to a Moorish Idol, kept in captivity? Large scale commercial farms live and die by their feed conversion ratios, everything else is secondary. Hobbyists don’t typically have the same restrictions, as we aren’t producing fish destined for a customers barbecue. We control feed costs as we please, some spare no costs when it comes to feeding pets. A commercial operation doesn’t have that luxury. Hopefully most/many hobbyists view their animals in longevity years, not maximum growth in minimal time, as a farmer would.
 
Im not trying to make any points about the ol tapioca wafers...

Ive come to the conclusion that we will have a much harder time getting people to feed their fish a vegetarian feed than we would actually raising the fish on it. Lol.

S Savethemall i never once ever gave thought to vegan fish food as ever being something that existed or would. But hey, thanks to you and this thread i feel much more educated on the subject. I think we will only see more and more of the industry committing to sustainable feeds in the future, and this vegan niche will certainly expand accordingly.
 
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