10,000GPH Pond Pump

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here is a pic of some tanks and the filter setup, sorry there a little dark but in this situation i used my cell camera.

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this is the ultima 30,000 and my 10,000 gph pump

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now you can see the 2" pipe, but you also see the 3" pipe that i used for the returns, since you wont have that much flow you can get away with 2" for filter and returns.
bigrich

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Bigrich, if you are running a 10,000GPH pump on your setup, that is the recommended size pump for that filter. I hear what you are saying though; any flow through the filter will be effectively filtering the water. But the issue with undersizing the pump is that you will not be able to properly backwash the media.

My understanding of the minimum GPH requirements is to ensure that the pump is powerful enough to backwash the filter media. If the pump is not powerful enough to lift the media inside of the filter unit and agitate it so that the detrius/fish poop is dislodged from it, you will not be able to properly clean/backwash the filter.

If you run a 200GPH pump on that filter, sure, it will work as a filter, but if you attempt to backwash the unit, nothing will happen because the pump is not powerful enough to stir up/agitate the media. It would be like putting a filter sock in your sump that you could never take out to clean.

This is why I say running this filter is overkill...you would need to run a really large pump that will be expensive to run. Those 1HP and 1.5HP pumps would cost me $300+ per month. It sounds like Bigrich has much lower rates than I do, so it's not as big of a deal, but oversizing your filtration can add up to a lot of money, month after month, year after year. Saving a couple hundred bucks by getting a good deal on a large filter isn't that great of a deal if you have to pay an extra several hundred dollars per year to run the thing.
 
+1. Why can't everything just be free.

aldiaz33 said:
Bigrich, if you are running a 10,000GPH pump on your setup, that is the recommended size pump for that filter. I hear what you are saying though; any flow through the filter will be effectively filtering the water. But the issue with undersizing the pump is that you will not be able to properly backwash the media.

My understanding of the minimum GPH requirements is to ensure that the pump is powerful enough to backwash the filter media. If the pump is not powerful enough to lift the media inside of the filter unit and agitate it so that the detrius/fish poop is dislodged from it, you will not be able to properly clean/backwash the filter.

If you run a 200GPH pump on that filter, sure, it will work as a filter, but if you attempt to backwash the unit, nothing will happen because the pump is not powerful enough to stir up/agitate the media. It would be like putting a filter sock in your sump that you could never take out to clean.

This is why I say running this filter is overkill...you would need to run a really large pump that will be expensive to run. Those 1HP and 1.5HP pumps would cost me $300+ per month. It sounds like Bigrich has much lower rates than I do, so it's not as big of a deal, but oversizing your filtration can add up to a lot of money, month after month, year after year. Saving a couple hundred bucks by getting a good deal on a large filter isn't that great of a deal if you have to pay an extra several hundred dollars per year to run the thing.
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ok i hear you guys, but as i showed someone else, the filter , even full of water, can be backwashed with a lower flow, all you have to do is grab the top of the filter and rock it back and forth while backwashing and you can watch in the little clear glass viewer that it gets really dirty water flowing through it, when it goes clear, shake it again and do so untill it runs clear, that is how ive done it on another setup that im using and it has worked for me, other than that everything else works fine with the setup
tale care guys, and happy fish keeping,
bigrich
 
While the pump and filter size may be overkill, the noise shouldn't be that much of an issue with the proper returns to the tank. Magnetic pumps aren't the same as mechanical, my AMS6100 is no more loud than my 1200gph on my 125.
The trick here is to have several returns so that you're not providing too much current to the tank. Also you'll need several overflows/outlets to make sure you're not going to overwhelm them and overflow the tank.

I would not recomend a 10,000gph pump due to the poor efficency that happens with most companies at or just before that gph rating. A 5-6000 gph would be ideal and most decent brand ones will be in the 5-600 watt range at that pump size.
That should save you on eletricity.

This will be a closed system so i don't really think noise will be an issue and as long as you have several returns, you should be fine.
 
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