100 gallon up stair's??

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TangoWRX;3284072; said:
You should be fine if the house is not from the dark ages. There is another thread somewhere with someone wanting to use a 180gal and an expert went into great depth about it all. There was a lot of things that make a difference but as it is near the beam it makes it a good spot.
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lol reverse that, older houses were made with thicker wood and better materials. As long as the older house doesn't have rot, then it would be stronger than the 2x4 cookie cutter.

of course I guess that would be more pertinent to AZ where we only have to worry about dry rot (typical of exposed outside wood) instead of moisture related issues.

at any rate I doubt you'll have an issue with a 100-125, I'd contact a contractor if you plan on going larger though.
 
ill post pixs later. the tank is setup already just need to know if it would hold!! thanks for all the info guys!!!
 
Lets be honest. Your not gonna hire an engineer to see if it'll hold your tank. I believe it will. This question gets posted 10x a day between the forums we all visit. I personally have a 110g, on a second floor of a duplex, built in the 70s. I also have a 10g next to that, and a 29g on top of a 20L next to that.

Just be smart about how you set it up. Put it on a load baring wall. Watch for how much the water level moves when you walk by it. Realize that it will be hotter than a tank downstairs, as most places the head escapes to the top floor. Which means you'll have more evaporation. Another test that I like to perform, is gettin 4 buddies, and all stand close together where you want to set it up, and all bounce on the floor in unison. See how much it's flexing, this will give you some indication. If you feel like you're going through the floor, obviously don't try it. If it feels solid, I'd give it a go.

Also your average structural engineer won't take into account that the weight is constant. it'll be 800+ pounds sitting there 24/7 for years. You're paying an engineer to guess if your house will hold it on the second floor. If he knew what he was doing, every engineer would say no, because they do need extra bracing under a second floor bathtub etc.

Just my opinion, i'd be smart about trying it. Wasting money on an engineer is a bad idea. I would however invest in either renters insurance or house insurance that covers water damage. As you can have a water accident on any floor. That low monthly cost will give you peace of mind.
 
CoryWM;3290491; said:
Lets be honest. Your not gonna hire an engineer to see if it'll hold your tank. I believe it will. This question gets posted 10x a day between the forums we all visit. I personally have a 110g, on a second floor of a duplex, built in the 70s. I also have a 10g next to that, and a 29g on top of a 20L next to that.

Just be smart about how you set it up. Put it on a load baring wall. Watch for how much the water level moves when you walk by it. Realize that it will be hotter than a tank downstairs, as most places the head escapes to the top floor. Which means you'll have more evaporation. Another test that I like to perform, is gettin 4 buddies, and all stand close together where you want to set it up, and all bounce on the floor in unison. See how much it's flexing, this will give you some indication. If you feel like you're going through the floor, obviously don't try it. If it feels solid, I'd give it a go.

Also your average structural engineer won't take into account that the weight is constant. it'll be 800+ pounds sitting there 24/7 for years. You're paying an engineer to guess if your house will hold it on the second floor. If he knew what he was doing, every engineer would say no, because they do need extra bracing under a second floor bathtub etc.

Just my opinion, i'd be smart about trying it. Wasting money on an engineer is a bad idea. I would however invest in either renters insurance or house insurance that covers water damage. As you can have a water accident on any floor. That low monthly cost will give you peace of mind.
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i had a 175 on my second in my old house, it was right over a closet downstairs so it had four walls supporting it. course it never even crossed my mind that it would fall through, we had a weight room on the second floor too :D youd think theyd build the house to stand up to furniture

but, you are definitley right about sagging over time and water damage, our closet got some rain once or twice, and when we moved out five years after we put the tank in the spot wasn't quite level anymore. it didnt result in any serious damage in any case.
 
l3raD;3284078; said:
Seek out Proffessional help...
DO NOT listen to people say yes yes yes my tank hasnt fell through in my house,
lol,
Every house is different,
Tell me,,, What will these people say if your tank does fall through and ur left with damages and expenses??
They be like sh*t happens my tank is fine..
Im just wanting the best result here.
I would play things say not jump straight into it.
Goodluck mate :)
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i would listen to this guy. my room floor sunk in a inch under my 90 ruined the floor, what happened was the top layer of particle board(which some contractors use on top of the plywood) soaked up water from spills and mishaps and finally crushed. the tank was never in danger of falling through but it could tilt the tank enough to cause a problem.

also recently my deck was damaged when moving a 300 lb marble counter top. all the old nails and screws broke under a portion. it was real off putting to have a deck to become all bouncy when moving abig piece of stone.
 
sostoudt;3290510; said:
i would listen to this guy. my room floor sunk in a inch under my 90 ruined the floor, what happened was the top layer of particle board(which some contractors use on top of the plywood) soaked up water from spills and mishaps and finally crushed. the tank was never in danger of falling through but it could tilt the tank enough to cause a problem.

also recently my deck was damaged when moving a 300 lb marble counter top. all the old nails and screws broke under a portion. it was real off putting to have a deck to become all bouncy when moving abig piece of stone.
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I would not listen to these people. Be sensible about what you're doing. YOU being smart will be better than hiring someone to be smart for you, for 1 hour of their services. In all of the cases above, a structural engineer would come to the conclusion that the structures would hold the weight easily.

He would also say, if you asked him. Do you think recurring water damage to that space would influence the ability to hold the weight? DUR. Of course it will. Will water damage on the bottom floor of your house cause damage to the floor? yep. Not anymore so than the second floor.

If you received damage from 300lbs of granite on your deck. I'd be glad, you learned that it was getting weather beaten, at a cheap price, no one had to get hurt.

Like I said. put the money towards insurance to cover water damage. Even if you have the floor rebuilt to support it. If you leak any water, you're going to compromise it. It's all about how much risk you're willing to take. I'd be far more worried that a leak would spring or panel blow out, than it falling through the floor. They will cause just as much damage as it falling through the floor.
 
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